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Rob Rigg

Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« on: December 04, 2008, 12:12:25 AM »
Just showed up in the mail today (somehow) - Guess who is #1????
I don't think this was posted already?  ???

Best New Courses that you can Play (yes, they are ranked)

1) Tetherow - Bend, OR - Best New Course of the Year - ;D
2) Pound Ridge GC - NY
3) The Chase at Coyote Springs - NV
4) Journey at Pechanga - Temecula, CA
5) Wild Rock GC - Wisconsin Dells, Wisc
6) Sand Hollow Resort (Championship Course) - Hurricane, Utah
7) Palouse Ridge at WaSU
8) Four Mile Ranch GC - Colorado
9) Lake Presidential GC - Maryland
10) Old Marsh CC - Maine

Best Privates

1) Cornerstone Club - Monrtose, CO
2) Trump National - Bedminster, NJ
3) Sugarloaf Mountain - Minneola, FL
4) RCCC - Deer Lodge, Montana
5) Martis Camp - Truckee, CA
6) Ritz Carlton GC Creighton Farms - VA
7) The Cliffs at Keowee Springs - SC
8) Rainmakers - NM
9) The Idaho Club
10) Encanterra - AZ

Best International

1) Lubker Golf Resort - Denmark
2) The Castle Course

Architect of the Year - DMK
Restoration of the Year - Scioto CC

Ian_L

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 01:03:01 AM »
I love it when "8 )" ends up as a smiley. 8)

Rob Rigg

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 01:08:25 AM »
You win this battle smiley!!!!! 8)

Son of a . . .

Ryan Farrow

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 01:15:54 AM »
Hmmmm... never would have thought there would be 3 courses better than Rock Creek. Thats quite impressive.  According to Shivas it looks like there will be 4 new entries into the top 10 US list.

Tim Book

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 02:51:41 AM »
Seeing this list just adds insult to injury knowing that I chose the forgettable 'Ledges' over both Sand Hollow and Chase @ Coyote Springs.  From various posts it appears very few from the tree house have played the 'Chase'.  Can anyone offer a review or either the 'Chase' or Sand Hollow?

Mike Erdmann

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 07:20:07 AM »
BillV has a review of the Chase Course at Coyote Springs on his blog at http://redanman.blogspot.com/2008/11/chase-course-at-coyote-springs-nv.html

Tom_Doak

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 11:17:58 AM »
I'm surprised that the courses are ranked, considering that, to the best of my knowledge, no one actually votes on this "ranking" -- the editors just put it together through word of mouth.

Or at least that's how they've done it before, unless they've changed the system.  I know for a fact that the panel that votes on the top 100 courses doesn't vote on "best new".

P.S.  Who built the Lubker Golf Resort in Denmark?

Chris_Clouser

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 11:23:46 AM »
Has anyone seen the Scioto restoration?

Having only been there once and several years ago I would be interested in hearing what others have to say about the changes.

Eric Franzen

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 11:24:41 AM »

P.S.  Who built the Lubker Golf Resort in Denmark?

RTJ II - or are you asking about who built the whole complex?

Garland Bayley

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 11:29:05 AM »
Rob,

You forgot to label Tetherow as best new cart-ball course of the year.
8)
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Tom_Doak

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2008, 12:02:51 PM »
Eric:  No, I was just curious who the architect was.  Thanks.

John Sheehan

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 12:44:58 PM »
Okay, so I am a bust at using the "search" function on the site. Mea Culpa. Has Encanterra been discussed here?  If not, has anyone played it?

Jay Flemma

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2008, 12:49:06 PM »
Nice to see sand hollow and four mile ranch.

Who did the Scioto restoration?

Steve_ Shaffer

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K. Krahenbuhl

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2008, 02:26:10 PM »
Nice to see sand hollow and four mile ranch.

Who did the Scioto restoration?

Jay there is some good info and pictures of the work on their website...

https://www.memberstatements.com/tour/tours.cfm?tourid=31799

Matthew Hunt

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2008, 02:59:07 PM »

P.S.  Who built the Lubker Golf Resort in Denmark?

RTJ II - or are you asking about who built the whole complex?

That woman built one didn't she?

Adam Clayman

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2008, 03:04:22 PM »
  I know for a fact that the panel that votes on the top 100 courses doesn't vote on "best new".


Do they vote on "100" you can play"?
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Greg Chambers

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2008, 03:33:41 PM »
Okay, so I am a bust at using the "search" function on the site. Mea Culpa. Has Encanterra been discussed here?  If not, has anyone played it?

John,

I had the priveledge to play Encanterra this past winter.  I enjoyed it emencely, in fact, I thought it was one of the better courses I played this year.  The fairways are incredibly wide, giving tons of options for playing approaches from different angles.  Huge chipping areas around the greens.  I remember a few of the par 4's being pretty long, but I certainly didn't feel beat up at the end of the day.  The course was in excellent condition, as well.  Very solid course in my opinion.
"It's good sportsmanship to not pick up lost golf balls while they are still rolling.”

Kenny Baer

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2008, 03:39:45 PM »
Jack did the Scioto restoration.

Jonathan Cummings

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2008, 05:19:30 PM »
9) The Idaho Club

Wait a second!  I'm rather familiar wit the N Idaho golf courses and have played Hidden Lakes (Idaho Club) a number of times over the years.  I'm actually credited (in acknowledgements) in Sidorsky's "365 days of golf" with getting Hidden Lakes in his book.  The new Nicklaus nine opened so late this year that I'm surprised anybody has seen it much less a voting panel.  I was asked to wait until the spring to see the place when I asked this fall to come out.

JC

PThomas

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2008, 05:35:03 PM »
Jack did the Scioto restoration.

Jack AND Mike Hurdzan
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

John Sheehan

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2008, 08:51:59 PM »
Okay, so I am a bust at using the "search" function on the site. Mea Culpa. Has Encanterra been discussed here?  If not, has anyone played it?

John,

I had the priveledge to play Encanterra this past winter.  I enjoyed it emencely, in fact, I thought it was one of the better courses I played this year.  The fairways are incredibly wide, giving tons of options for playing approaches from different angles.  Huge chipping areas around the greens.  I remember a few of the par 4's being pretty long, but I certainly didn't feel beat up at the end of the day.  The course was in excellent condition, as well.  Very solid course in my opinion.

Thanks, Greg.  I'm going to be playing it next week and am looking forward to it.

Jed Peters

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2008, 09:32:13 PM »
How does the:

2) Trump National - Bedminster, NJ

Get 2nd in Best New Private when it just opened end of August/beginning of September?

I was told by someone pretty well "in the know" during my tour late July that Donald was going to be the first one to play the course--how did that many people see it in a month/month and a half?

Furthermore, let me say this--it's no surprise to me that the "New" course is so highly touted there...I thought it was a "better" track than his other one on the property, and didn't even play it! (And I thought there were some very good holes on the other course!)

Rob Rigg

Re: Golf Magazine Best New Courses of 2008, etc.
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2008, 09:37:02 PM »
Does anyone know why GM decided to give out an "Architect of the Year" shout out - for the first time?

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