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Adam Clayman

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2008, 05:04:10 PM »
That is amazing. Thanx Eric. How did you figure it out? Bird Rock?
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Sean Leary

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2008, 05:11:29 PM »
Wow.

fooled me totally.

I don't remember the front of 3 green being that much of a finger. Adam is it still that way or is it more rounded off?
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Tom Huckaby

Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2008, 05:17:47 PM »
Sean - the green would appear to be very different today.

Here's a terrible pic from the PB website...



This shows the schematic:

http://www.pebblebeach.com/page.asp?id=1327

No finger any more.... Bummer so much more grass and less sand too, huh?

TH
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Eric Johnson

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2008, 05:30:38 PM »
Quote from: Adam Clayman on November 20, 2008, 05:04:10 PM
That is amazing. Thanx Eric. How did you figure it out? Bird Rock?

Golf bags, Buttons, Bird Rock and Bothered by not knowing where the #$%& that picture was shot.  Also, the turf in the background just didn't look like the front tee and surrounds of #5.

Overall, it was tough to figure out these pictures without the landmarks and the addition of a lot more grass by the time I set foot on Spyglass in 1992.
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Ken Moum

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2008, 05:31:19 PM »
Quote from: Adam Clayman on November 20, 2008, 01:40:51 PM
Sean, It is hard to tell but I suspect the farthest right side of green space that's visible is where the green slopes hard downward to the back half. That would make that other green area to the left part green and part approach. The amazing part is how invasive the ice plant has been since those many years, and, also how some other changes to the dunescape have occurred. I.e. the road that runs between the holes created a ridge that would likely make this photo impossible today.

Looking closer, I wouldn't discount Eric's guess.  The shape of the either green would've been altered. The reason I was certain of it being the fifth, was the right side shelf. They must've added the back right bunker, cutting into the shelf and creating a slight back left bulb-like small shape. . How does one do a reverse image?

There's no doubt that it's a flipped photo, his sweater buttons are backwards.

Ken
« Last Edit: November 20, 2008, 05:34:16 PM by kmoum »
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Anthony Gray

Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2008, 09:58:58 PM »



  I do not see iceplant. I thought it was natural. It appears it was added later.

  Anthony

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Adam Clayman

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2008, 11:46:15 PM »
Iceplant was brought in by the army to stabilize the dunes at Fort Ord. I believe it was exported from Africa.
 It can now be found throughout the peninsula and I  have even seen it growing in Hollister some 40 + miles away.

Eric, If anything this exercise has taught me how similar the shapes are of the third and fifth.  Just at different angles and orientation.

The place looks like the old Pebble Beach in the pictures hanging in or near the Tap Room.
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Brian_Ewen

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2008, 04:49:03 AM »
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john_stiles

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2008, 10:40:34 AM »
Brian,

I am going to guess the 18th hole, possibly at Moraine in Dayton, Ohio, in 1945.

> There is another photo, of this same hole in the LIFE collection, showing Byron Nelson putting
> I think there are many photos of this course in the collection, with no mention of location or course in the photo's information
>  all 'these' photos of seemingly the same event, including this one above, look like it was a match play event or exhibition.
>  Some of the other photos look like 'match play' type photos with gallery around two players.
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BCrosby

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2008, 01:54:54 PM »
Maybe I'm misreading something, but did Walker Evans actually take a lot of Life's golf course pictures?

Wow.

Bob
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john_stiles

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2008, 03:28:29 PM »
There are many, many photos from the Masters with many of those by Silk, Kaufmann, etc.

The other golf events,  tournaments, etc.  are by many different photographers.

There are so many 'golf' photos.
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Neil_Crafter

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Re: Cool Augusta Picture
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2008, 05:13:08 PM »
and only 20 or so years earlier the 15th green at Cypress looked like this.


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