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Matt_Cohn

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I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« on: November 04, 2008, 12:35:09 PM »
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Kalen Braley

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 12:38:22 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 04, 2008, 12:58:42 PM by Kalen Braley »
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ChipRoyce

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 01:00:01 PM »
Is $1MM really that much?

What if you have sufficient acerage for 3 holes averaging 420 yds each?
If it also includes irrigation, drainage and all the construction expense?
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Kalen Braley

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 01:01:53 PM »
Quote from: ChipRoyce on November 04, 2008, 01:00:01 PM
Is $1MM really that much?

What if you have sufficient acerage for 3 holes averaging 420 yds each?
If it also includes irrigation, drainage and all the construction expense?

Chip,

Its just for his design fees.  Earth moving, construction, etc, all that is extra...
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David Stamm

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 01:09:18 PM »
In this present economic climate, I'd be interested to see how many takers there are for this. Personally, I'd think it would be more fun to design my own and get consultation for the logistics (irrigation, drainage, etc.) from a construction firm. Something along the lines of GT's concept of a course within a course would be alot of fun and add more variety. I'd pass on the practice area if it meant compromising the holes.
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Norbert P

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 01:16:57 PM »
"Jack Nicklaus Custom Backyard Course Package
Price    Beginning at $1,000,000.00*

*Construction and site preparation costs not included."



Wow!  What's in a name? A million dollars.

Want a deal? I'll design 3 holes in your back yard for 412 bucks (plus expenses). 
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PCCraig

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 01:18:51 PM »
Is this a joke?

I sure guess it would be cool, but who will maintain it after he builds it?

Maybe someone would be gullible enough to buy this a year ago...
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Patrick Glynn

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2008, 01:20:55 PM »
I really would consider it if I had a nice backyard. Interestingly enough I dont think you would need acres of dunes to have a great 3 hole course. Just look at what David Kidd did with his site at The Castle Course. If you laid the "course" out using the old favorite of triangulation I do not think you would need a huge piece of land, also holes could cross over (I am assuming there woiuld be no liability issues :P)
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Tom Naccarato

Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 01:56:23 PM »
The Jeff Brauer Collection, at K-Mart..... ;)

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Jed Peters

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2008, 01:58:40 PM »
Quote from: David Stamm on November 04, 2008, 01:09:18 PM
In this present economic climate, I'd be interested to see how many takers there are for this.

I'm guessing 0.

Or MAYBE 1 from some wife that wants to get a crazy present for Xmas for hubby--but she'll just pay the money and it'll never get done.

If you have this amount of money to pull the trigger, you have enough money to summon Jack's firm if you wanted it in the first place.
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Jeff_Mingay

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2008, 01:59:06 PM »
There's a Rod Whitman package at Canadian Tire too  ;D
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PCCraig

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2008, 02:09:59 PM »
I think if I were to have only 3 holes built, I would rather build something more along the lines of the Sheep Ranch, with three green sites and 50 different ways to play them.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2008, 02:15:18 PM »
Its not that far-fetched being advertised on Nieman Marcus's website.

I went to the store in San Fran once and couldn't believe the outrageous prices they charged.  $50 for a pair of socks, who would have guessed it.

It does raise an interesting question though.

Assuming you had the land, how much would you be willing to pay for which architect to design a 3 holer in your backyard?  I've only got about .08 acres in mine, so it'd have to be a putt putt course.  ;D
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Chip Gaskins

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2008, 03:57:54 PM »
$333k per hole...sounds like a deal.
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 03:59:51 PM »
It does also say beginning.

Why would someone want the signature design as opposed to a Nicklaus design, just for their back yard....  :)

I think this does reflect on where and how they fish for new projects.
This agreement cost the firm something - attorneys at a minimum.

I'm calling Nordstrom.

Cheers
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archie_struthers

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 04:08:29 PM »
 ;D ;) ;D


Not that's  chutspah   !!!!


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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cary lichtenstein

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 04:26:26 PM »
I'll do it for $100 plus expenses
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Philippe Binette

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 04:50:35 PM »
I'll design and built it for half off Nicklaus fee
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Steve Pieracci

Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2008, 06:36:24 PM »
A least shipping is free..... ;D
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Garland Bayley

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2008, 06:55:01 PM »
So well thought through they even threw in a practice area to boot!

As if you need a practice area if you have 3 golf holes in your backyard! What following groups are going to hit into you if you say hit 25 sand shots to one of the greens? What following group is going to complain if you hit 25 drives from the same tee? I suggest Jack's company consult with Mike Nuzzo on the need for a practice area on a three hole course in a back yard.
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Joshua Pettit

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2008, 09:15:46 PM »
I'd do it for free.
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Yannick Pilon

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2008, 09:17:16 PM »
You guys would be surprised at how many of those little "private" courses actually exist!  Our firm has designed two of them in the past ten years, and I personally know about three more, just in Quebec!!  One of them is actually a full 18, which is apparently supposed to be one of the best courses in the country....

Actually, I think we just had clients come in the office a couple of days ago wanting to do this....

There are more people who do this that we can imagine.  Sometimes, I sure think I might have chosen the wrong business, at least on a financial standpoint!

YP
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David Stamm

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2008, 09:25:32 PM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on November 04, 2008, 02:15:18 PM
Its not that far-fetched being advertised on Nieman Marcus's website.

I went to the store in San Fran once and couldn't believe the outrageous prices they charged.  $50 for a pair of socks, who would have guessed it.

It does raise an interesting question though.

Assuming you had the land, how much would you be willing to pay for which architect to design a 3 holer in your backyard?  I've only got about .08 acres in mine, so it'd have to be a putt putt course.  ;D


Kalen, there is a reason it's also known as "Needless Markup"......
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Matt Varney

Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2008, 08:02:51 AM »
There is a buyer for everything in life including this golf course design package.  Anyone who truly wanted a private facility like this on their property would never even consider this $ 1M price tag.

I can think of at least 5-7 architects or designers that could design a private short course and it would blow you away on the quality of the design without having the Nicklaus signature.

Let me ask this question to the GCA guys - How much would it cost to design a 6 to 9 hole course with a nice practice range?  I have a very good pulse on construction, irrigation and grassing costs.

Matt

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Adam Clayman

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Re: I bet Tom Doak would do it for $500k (if the site were good!)
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2008, 08:37:03 AM »
Its a Jn design. Be the first on your block with one. Unless your estate starts on a quarter acre.
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