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mike_beene

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Collection of holes or golf course?
« on: June 20, 2002, 09:40:36 PM »
Forgetting its length ,Bethpage seemed to big to be a golf course of character.I think the trees,big bunkers,distance the course goes out,the road and especially the four other courses take away from Bethpages appeal.I believe there has to be some feeling of continuity to turn a collection of holes into a quality course.What was Bethpage lacking?If I'm making no sense somebody help!
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A_Clay_Man

Re: Collection of holes or golf course?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2002, 05:21:14 AM »
Carts and cartpaths? :o
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TEPaul

Re: Collection of holes or golf course?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2002, 05:25:57 AM »
Mike Beene:

What kind of help do you have in mind?

How about this? Joseph Burbeck created a routing in the big, rugged, hole separated style of Pine Valley-an idea that some consultant named A.W. Tillinghast gave him credit for in writing!

Does that help?
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Mike_Sweeney

Re: Collection of holes or golf course?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2002, 07:15:15 AM »
Mike,

I really am not the great defender of Bethpage, as I have only play The Black less than 10 times, and The Red only once, but you are not seeing something. On Long Island alone here are some of the courses where a road cuts through:

* Shinnecock (road cuts through 2 holes!)
* National Golf Links of America (road cuts through 2 holes !)
* Maidstone (# 2 is on it own peninsula surrounded by road not water !)
* Southampton Golf Club (rarely mentioned here but is a Seth Raynor course)

Then there is this course in Scotland that plays out and back, has a road and a hotel building come into play, and has 6 courses in the complex that the public can play. It is called St. Andrews.

Bethpage doesn't have an exclusive club feeling? Lets see anyone on this website try to get into The Nassau Players Club, which is limited to 100 members. Take a look at the link below and tell me that picture could not replace the post round pictures from some of the GCA outings. From their website:

http://nassauplayers.org/npcmemberframe.htm

Founded in 1993, The Nassau Players Club is proud to be based at the Black Course at Bethpage State Park, the site of the 2002 U.S Open.

The club has a full membership of 100 players, as limited by the NPC Constitution and By-Laws, and actively participates in the various regional governing bodies. We impose a strict Code of Conduct on our members whether playing at home or away.

The Trees! It is a Parkland course! Go back and read Bruceski's hole by hole account of his round. How many holes did the trees come into play. Not that many.

Big Bunkers! Go to Mullen, Nebraska look at the bunkers at Sand Hills and then tell me that BB has big bunkers.  BB's bunkers are on the same scale as Winged Foot. ;)

As I mentioned in a previous post, I only wish I had the secret code to the telephone reservation system so that I could actually get onto the course. I guess I will have to call some Winged Foot friends which is easier to get on right now  ;D




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Tim Weiman

Re: Collection of holes or golf course?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2002, 09:01:01 AM »
Mike Sweeney:

Well said!
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Bethpage Lover

Re: Collection of holes or golf course?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2002, 04:45:18 AM »
What were we too loud for ya?
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