what course do you give a Doak 10 to that Tom didn't?

[J_ Crisham]

Except for Pebble none of the others were deemed worthy of a US Open.

Tim, Are you suggesting that SFGC or CPC would want an Open? They are far superior to many Open venues. I have played 17 different courses that have held Opens.Having an Open doesn't guarantee greatness as was witnessed by Torrey hosting it. Jack

[Tom_Doak]

Jack:

Neither SFGC nor Cypress Point would make as good a venue for the US Open as Olympic does.  But I think both of them are much more fun and interesting for member play, so they rate higher on the Doak scale.

[Jim Nugent]

And, of course, Oakmont has terrific short par 4s like #2 and #17.

George, don't forget #8. 

[Carl Nichols]

I really really enjoy Olympic, but unlike many of the other courses discussed in this thread, it doesn't sniff 10.  It could arguably be a 9, but not a 10. 

[Kevin Pallier]

North Berwick was also in the Gourmet's Choice, though I only gave it an 8, because I know that it is too short and quirky for a lot of great players to take seriously.  It is on the short list of places I would choose for my last round of golf ... in part because I might still be able to post a good number there.

Tom

I've always wondered why you regard "length" as a criteria in which to separate golf courses ? Would not Royal Melbourne be a lesser of a course these days as such ?


FWIW - in my own ratings I give North Berwick a 9.5/10 and bracket it in a group of behind but a handfull of courses.