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Jim Nugent

Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2008, 12:19:17 AM »
John, maybe I'm wrong, but is George possibly trying to make another point with some of these bumps, along with being helpful?

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2008, 12:45:33 AM »
Gimme Shelter Harbour!  I could spend hours on and around almost each green there if given the chance.
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Rob Rigg

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Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2008, 01:10:42 AM »
Tetherow guy here voting for Tetherow - fascinating green complexes with multiple playing options, on most holes, from close in to work the ball towards the pin, if executed properly.

Sidenote: I feel like fescue based courses often make 60, 30, and just off the green shots a lot more interesting and thought provoking because the lob wedge is often the incorrect play.

Mark Pearce

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Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2008, 04:01:07 AM »
Hanse's Craighead course at Crail has a wonderful set of greens for pitching and chipping to.  I've heard people criticise them as all being raised upturned saucers but I don't think that's fair and I always have a ball with the challenge they offer.
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2008, 08:06:39 AM »
Would the definition/nominations vary as to class of golfer?

Some seem to think tough rolling greens would make it the best 60 and in course.  However, if I was a short hitter who depended on the short game to get me up and in from just in front of the green, my definition might be a flat area in that zone, plus long rolling green contours I could use to get my short pitch (or pitch and run) close to the hole with a creative shot.

Would you design the 60 and in for that kind of player, or for a good player who might never use that feature, since they never come up that short?  Or, does 60 and in count laterally, too, for those guys who are pin high but have missed left and right?
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Patrick Kiser

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Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2008, 12:50:48 PM »
I'm going to stay clear from "interest" or "challenge" ... but how about most "memorable".

In that department (and given my short golfing life), I'll have to say Black Mesa to this day stays in my memory bank from the approach shot in.

Why?

Just seemed to have all kinds of things going on that kept you thinking about how to tackle the approach.  From false fronts, to tiered greens, to greens above the fairway, etc., I just remember really being presented with so many options and so many ways to tackle the task ... that I still haven't forgotten about it.  Sure it was interesting and challenging, but the fact it's surfacing now tells me it fits the bill here.

My two cents.

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Carl Rogers

Re: Modern Top Ten Sixty Yards and In
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2008, 03:21:41 PM »
I think Riverfront in Suffolk, VA holds its own in this category.