"In this thread alone I have been called an asshole, a clown, a complete jackass, and probably a few other things I didn't bother to read. I don't recall ridiculously attacking anyone, or even attacking anyone.
I wish that you and others would not play along with TEPaul when he paints himself as the victim here. Again, his words and actions here and in the past paint a much different picture.
And I too wish the ridiculous attacks would stop, but they won't until more on the website stand up to TEPaul and anyone else who makes such attacks."
Mr. Moriarty:
There are two entirely separate issues here:
The first and most important issue to this website is; did we or Merion ever minimize the contribution Macdonald/Whigam made to MCC and Merion East?
The issue of whether Wayne Morrison (or me or Mike Cirba) denigrated Macdonald or Raynor because he does not really like their style of architecture has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of whether Merion or us here on this website EVER tried to minimize Macdonald/Whigam's 1910-1911 contribution to MCC or Merion East.
The fact is neither Merion nor us nor anyone else ever attached to Merion ever did that to Macdonald/Whigam and consequently the truth is it makes no difference at all historially or otherwise if you and Tom MacWood just keep claiming we all did because it is just not true, it is not and never has been the case and MCC's and Merion G.C.'s record make that abundantly clear.
The facts are both you and Mr. MacWood have for almost five years now used two altenative approaches to try to continue to make it look like Merion or us minimized Macdonald/Whigam's contribution to MCC and Merion East;
1. You two just continue to claim we and Merion minimized their contribution and denigrated them even though that has never been remotely the case.
2. You two created a scenario that is a complete and total exaggeration of what Macdonald/Whigam actually did contribute to MCC and Merion East including this hair-brained totally unsupportable story you created out of whole cloth (including an attempt to move events dates around which is timeline impossible to do anyway for the obvious reason of records to the contrary) that Macdonald did a routing the club used for Merion East and that he was the primary creative force behind the routing and design of Merion East. There is no such thing and obviously that's the reality behind why you never produced it, never will and never can and the other reality is MCC records prove who really did do those things for MCC and Merion East, despite the fact you claim it was impossible for Wilson and committee to do it because they were novices which is total bullshit too, and it was not Macdonald and Whigam. As the MCC record shows, and has always shown (and we have never denied it) Macdonald/Whigam advised them on a few general aspects to do with the land and basic architectural principles and its potential golf agronomy and that was the extent of it for which they were thanked very publicly.
Why have you two continued your preposterous accusations and this fanciful story of a massively exaggerated Macdonald/Whigam contribution? Apparently it is all you can do to keep your names in front of this website.
No one believes either of your preposterous approaches any longer but yet you two carry on like a broken record.
The third issue of whether you are a clown, jackass or asshole is a totally separate issue as well and has nothing whatsoever to do with the accurate historical record of Merion East, that's for damn sure.