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TEPaul

"Pat,
Upon meeting you on this site, my irritation at your stubborness has slowly turned to admiration."


jwinick:

For God Sake man, let's not overdo it, shall we. Feel free to go back to irritation over his stubborness!   :-*

Ted Kramer

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Pat, all the golf stuff is great and all . . .
I'm just glad to hear that you're ok after surgery.
All the best!

-Ted

Mike_Cirba

Patrick,

You are absolutely amazing.

God bless you and continued good health and great happiness. 

By the way, the 3rd at Merion is not a redan and only a boob would consider it one.   ;)

PThomas

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Pat, you are one tough SOB! 

best wishes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pt
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Jerry Kluger

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Well Pat, when I began lurking on this site I was under the impression that you did not have a heart - or for that matter, some claimed you didn't have a mind either.  You've felt it necessary to prove them wrong over and over again but this is taking it to an extreme - glad to hear you're doing well and God bless you.

BCrosby

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Playing golf four days after heart surgery is either crazy or visionary.

Shooting even par means it was absolutely 100% visionary.

I am in awe Pat. Congrats.

Bob

Tom Huckaby

What mystifies me is that any of this surprises any of you.

The man is a legend - hell this is just a minor footnote in his story.

 ;)

TEPaul

Alright, this is about enough of all this admiration and congratulations and gushing over Patrick Mucci, and frankly it's beginning to make me feel a bit sick.

Patrick, there is a very fine line between hanging back for the precise right amount of time to make your triumphant entry as the crowd is pumped up and rallied into a form of controlled frenzy and just being late!

So, get in here and explain yourself would you please? Are you a tough SOB, a visionary or just plain nuts?

Sorry guys, you might need to wait throughout today for Pat to enter and explain himself---I forgot, I think he said he was going out today to play some other course. Maybe this time the wanker will shoot under par and add another crazy remarkable item to his ongoing saga with golf. Wait a minute, belay that last thought---he also says he's so pumped up he may go out tomorrow and try to qualify for the USGA Senior Amateur or Open---he is still entered in a qualifying field somewhere in New Jersey.

By the way, I did ask him what the hell his wife Deb thinks about all this. He said, as usual, she thinks he's f... crazy.

She's a very wise lady that Deb Mucci---we are of very like mind when it comes to Patrick Mucci, the only difference is she has to look and that black and blue and purple mess in and around his mid-parts and fortunately for me, I don't.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 10:15:46 AM by TEPaul »

archie_struthers

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 :) :) :)

Best of luck and God bless to you Pat...hope to see you soon ..last time we were discussing the merits of #8 at Hidden Creek ...

Looking forward to playing golf someday soon ,  if we put you in a staight  jacket and plus fours we can play even   LOL!

aloha

JESII

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By the way, I did ask him what the hell his wife Deb thinks about all this. He said, as usual, she thinks he's f... crazy.


She married the old SOB...who's crazier than her?

JWinick

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Knowing Pat, he will irritate us shortly upon his return.

"Pat,
Upon meeting you on this site, my irritation at your stubborness has slowly turned to admiration."


jwinick:

For God Sake man, let's not overdo it, shall we. Feel free to go back to irritation over his stubborness!   :-*

George Pazin

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Inspiring story, thanks for sharing it. Having met Patrick, it doesn't surprise me in the least; larger than life in more ways than one.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Kalen Braley

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Ahhh come on guys....this is way overdoing it.

He sent me his bucket list like 3 months ago and according to his list, he was supposed to be out playing 2 days after surgery, not 4.  Only a pussie would have to wait two extra days to tee it up!!  :P

Pat.....forget Tiger and his phony knee injury, your my new golf hero!!  ;D

George_Bahto

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Pat, you are truly amazing and yes, a legend in your own time.

I've been in Patrick's company many times and have always come out the better for it.

God Bless, man

gb
If a player insists on playing his maximum power on his tee-shot, it is not the architect's intention to allow him an overly wide target to hit to but rather should be allowed this privilege of maximum power except under conditions of exceptional skill.
   Wethered & Simpson

Doug Wright

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Heart surgery--$10,000.
Even par at Liberty National--priceless.

Or is it the other way around...

Well done on all fronts Pat M.
Twitter: @Deneuchre

Patrick_Mucci

First, I want to thank everyone for the kind words.

Second, stay in touch with your body, listen to the signals it sends to you.
DO NOT to ignore symptoms, even if you think it's nothing to worry about.  Inventory them and if the symptoms repeat themselves or other symptoms present themselves, connect the dots and seek the appropriate medical attention, especially if there's a medical history in your family.   Don't ignore signals, medical or architectural.

In the ultimate, you have to be your own patient advocate.
Trust your instincts, don't ignore them.

My determination, my stubborness helped me in my battle with Stage III cancer.  Whether it's a form of denial or just part of my fabric or a combination of the two, I don't know, but, it's served me well in life, with a few bumps along the way.  

A sense of humor is also a great ally.

When they put me on the operating table they asked me to place my arms alongside my body with my thumbs under my body, which I did.
Then they began wrapping my arms to my body with a sheet, immobilizing me.  I didn't like that.  I didn't like being confined and unable to move.
(read, loss of control)

I asked them why they were doing this to me as I didn't recall this when I had my last procedure 14 years ago.   They said it was to prevent me from rocking and rolling off the table.

I told them to go down to the pharmacy and get a dozen Viagra pills, give them to me, and in a half an hour I assured them that I wouldn't be able to roll anywhere.

They thought I had a unique sense of humor.

Just so you don't think I'm totally crazy, on Saturday I went to my office for a few hours, then I went and chipped and putted for a half an hour.
Sunday, I hit about 60 lob wedges from 20 and 40 yards and then hit 10 Sand Wedges, Pitching wedges, 8, 6 and 4 irons, then another 20 Lob wedges.

Monday morning I swung a weighted iron and felt great, so I decided to go ahead and play.

I think there's a similarity in managing your medical condition and managing a round of golf, at least for me it seems that way.

First, you have the ultimate responsibility for your health and your score.
Second, I believe in positive reinforcement to almost total exclusion of any negative information.

When I was undergoing full dose chemotherapy they started to describe all the things that could happen to me.  I told them to stop, which they did.
I told them that the same chemo drugs couldn't affect 800,000 annual patients in the same way.  They agreed.  I then told them to ONLY tell me what I had to be cautious about MEDICALLY.  And that my body would react uniquely to the chemo drugs and that I didn't want to be predisposed to adverse side affects that might never happen.  I wanted to stay positive.

Setting goals is also important, striving to achieve them is equally important

I held my GCA.com get together at Baltusrol five weeks after I had major cancer surgery in 2004.  While my wife was upset with me for working hard to insure that the event went off smoothly, she was really upset when I had her drive me to NGLA two weeks after surgery to see that they had removed all of the trees on the golf course.   

Stubborness at its finest hour  ;D

I consider the round I shot at National when I was in the end stages of post operative full dose chemotherapy to be one of my finest achievements in golf.  I had lost 70+ pounds, couldn't walk 50 feet without getting fatiqued, couldn't get a long iron more than 10 feet off the ground, yet I scored rather well.

I think it was a matter of being comfortable in my environment.
I love NGLA.  I think I understand it and I think the great CBM designed it to accomodate higher handicap players, so I took some of the alternate routes he offered, with some modifications.

When you can't hit a ball 180 yards off the tee and your 4-iron barely does 150, you have to ACCEPT your limitations.  At least, that's what Clint Eastwood told me.  Once you accept them, you have to compensate for them by altering your plan of attack and by taking the clubs that will enable you to execute your revised strategy.

As I began to gain weight and strength, the biggest problem was trying to muscle the ball instead of swinging within myself.

Yesterday, I just tried to swing within myself because I didn't want to strain anything, muscles, stitches, etc., etc..  And, I hit the ball more solid in doing so.  I hit some incredible three woods and 2-irons.  I hit one 2-iron shot that may have been amongst the best shots I ever hit, because I didn't try to kill it.  I also played the shot such that a miss-hit wouldn't be disastrous.

For some reason I've enjoyed really good rounds on a course that I was playing for the first time.  Part of that I attribute to NOT knowing where the trouble is.  When I get a caddy I tell him that I only want to know where to hit the ball, and NOT where NOT to hit the ball.  That's important, for ME.

When I'm on the tee I visually receive the tactical signals, intended by the architect, based on the presentation of the features he designed and built.
I then ask the caddy where I should hit it.  Most of the time we agree.
On the times we don't, I ask additional questions.

Approaching greens, I go through the same process, but am less likely to ask the caddy where to hit it unless the signals aren't perfectly clear.

I'm also a margin player, that is, if there appears to be trouble short, I'd rather take a little more club.  Or, if there's trouble flanking the green, I'd prefer to be short or long of that trouble if possible.

I also like to experiment and hit "ginky" shots.
I think it's fun.
When you can create an unusual shot in your mind, and then execute it, that's really satisfying, irrespective of the score you make.

There are so many ways to get from Point A to Point B, you just have to do it YOUR way.

To be clear, just because I may recognize the signals and make the proper decision, doesn't mean that I'm going to execute properly, but, if I've built in ample margins for that, the consequences aren't so severe, and I can make a reasonable score.

GOLF is a great medicine.

The desire to play is positive.
It places many of the issues and problems we face on the sidelines, and allows us to focus on our passion, playing the game.

Remember, you CAN'T play enough golf.

Thanks
« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 11:35:37 AM by Patrick_Mucci »

Tom Huckaby

Often times we praise posts here, saying best of the year, best this, best that.

No post will ever top what Pat just wrote.

All I can say is wow.  I've often said I come here to have fun, and if learning happens, great.

Today I have learned.

Thank you, Pat.

TH

ps - Notre Dame still sucks.   ;D

Patrick_Mucci


By the way, I did ask him what the hell his wife Deb thinks about all this. He said, as usual, she thinks he's f... crazy.


She married the old SOB...who's crazier than her?


Everyone who's met Deb knows why I married her.

What they can't figure out is why she married me.

"LOVE" remains BLIND


Mike_Cirba

Pat,

Huckaby is right.   

I'm going to clip that and keep it.

Patrick_Mucci


I am shocked that Pat would play Liberty National.

Good to hear he is on the mend.


Why wouldn't I ?

Without playing the golf course I wouldn't be qualified to comment on it.

I was the guest of my host, at a charity event.

It had some features I liked and some I didn't like.

I liked how the grass was mowed right up to the bunkers, in the fairways and around the greens.  I also liked how the surrounds FED many of the bunkers.

I didn't care for the configuration of the bunkers.
They appeared to be designed and built, more for visuals (eye candy) than playability.

Patrick_Mucci


Nice going Pat!  I don't think I ever got a real answer to whether you are any blood kin to the famous WWII war hero Col. Mucci who led the mission to free the POWs on the Philipines, and who was legendary for his incredible toughness and dedication to physical fitness, open ocean swimming into his late 80s.  

Mucci, that is the Italian word for tenacious, is it not?  ;D


RJ,

Yes, I'm related to Colonel Henry Mucci.
Read the book, "Ghost Soldiers", it's rather interesting.

Tom Huckaby

Mike:  I'm going to clip and keep this:

Huckaby is right. 

Today is a day of firsts....

 ;D

Mike_Cirba

Huckaby,

Yes, and I'm complimenting Patrick so consider the source.  ;)

Patrick_Mucci


Well Pat, when I began lurking on this site I was under the impression that you did not have a heart - or for that matter, some claimed you didn't have a mind either.  You've felt it necessary to prove them wrong over and over again but this is taking it to an extreme - glad to hear you're doing well and God bless you.


Jerry,

The reason the procedure took so long was that they had to spend the first hour trying to find my heart.  They were annoyed and mystified that they couldn't find it.  Finally, a Resident found it at the base of my penis.
Hence the phrase, "heart on"  ;D

To follow up on an item TEPaul mentioned, the caddy thought my host was kidding when he told him that I had had a heart procedure done last Thursday, so I took out a card that I'm required to carry in the event I need an MRI.  It gives the location of the stents and the details on the stents.
It's dated 08-21-08.  He still thought it was a gag.  I was wearing shorts so I pulled up the right side of my shorts exposing my thigh and groin, which was green, purple, black and blue.  When he saw that he almost feinted, and so did the guys I was playing with.  It ain't pretty.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 07:16:38 PM by Patrick_Mucci »

Voytek Wilczak

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So how was Liberty National, Pat?