[Patrick_Mucci]

Some claim it's the second best golf course in New Jersey with effectively small, angled, well bunkered greens and interesting topography.

Will the exposure gained vis a vis the Barclay's enhance it's image ?

Will the golf course gain stature with this added exposure ?

How often do the PGA Tour Pros rave about a golf course ?

[Dan Herrmann]

Patrick - I'm blown away by what I've seen on TV.  So much so that we're driving up to see the tournament tomorrow.

I hope the members get exactly what they'd like.  Ridgewood has flown under the radar, and they may like it that way.  But if they want greater acknowledgement of their great course, they have that too.

Who knew such a gem was in Paramus (which happens to be my wife's hometown).

[Anthony Fowler]

Ridgewood was in Matt Ward's third 10 in the met area in June.  Then mysteriously in July, he bumped it up to the second 10.  Coincedence? I think not.       A little FedEx Cup excitement on Matt's part?

[David Panzarasa]

I simply love that course.
 It's interesting, I moved to LA about a year ago now from NJ. If Ridgewood was in the middle of Los Angeles, it would be in the top 20 in the country, there is not even a question in my mind.  (I believe that about a ton of NJ courses though lol)

I do not think it is top 2-3 in NJ though, but top 10 for sure.

[JESII]

Will the exposure gained vis a vis the Barclay's enhance it's image ?
Why would a private country club in suburban New York City want its image enhanced? I think they know what they have (I do not, having never been there) and should not need PGA Tour validation.

Will the golf course gain stature with this added exposure ?
In the eyes of whom?

How often do the PGA Tour Pros rave about a golf course ?
Frequently, and it's usually about "everything is right there in front of you..." and "this course really lets us show of our games, which is what the fans want..."

While Ridgewood is probably a wonderful course, your intoxicated fawning about increased exposure and recognition from and by the PGA Tour players seems contradictory to so many of your posts about the ruination of conditioning and expectations in golf.

Is this simply the greatest display of homerism since Wayne MOrrison listing 10 William Flynn courses in his personal top 10? How far is Ridgewood from your front door?

[Mike Sweeney]

Somebody please load up Patrick's EZ Pass so that he can get out of Jersey and see the best Tilly course in the NY to DC corridor at Baltimore CC.

[Mike_Cirba]

Sully,

Has some strange science experiment gone horribly awry while I've been out of town that has morphed you into Son of Mucci?

What's next, bright green typing?   

Oh wait... 

Oh no...it's ALIVE!!   

[JESII]

I don't know what you're talking about...

[Tommy Williamsen]

Pat, I'm not sure why your question met such a vitriolic response.  I have not played Ridgewood since about 1998.  I played it on a Metro Tillinghast adventure: Winged Foot E&W, Quaker Ridge, Baltusrol Lower and Upper,  and Somerset Hills.  I thought it was better than the many renovated Lower Course, on a par with Somerset Hills but not up to the standards of the rest. I thought some of the holes on the front side were not up to the standard of the back.  I did not play the center so I can't comment on it.  I looks as though there have been some changes.  It looks very good on TV.  I'll have to get back there.

[Matt_Ward]

Anthony F:

I switched Ridgewood prior to this year's tourney because of some internal soul searching. Really enjoy the place -- although the tree issue can still be tweaked a bit more on a few holes.

Otherwise, the place has done well to be the transition course between Westchester and next year's situation w Liberty National.

[Mike Sweeney]

Some claim it's the second best golf course in New Jersey with effectively small, angled, well bunkered greens and interesting topography.

Pat,

Which course are we ranking? You seem to have some strong opinions on composite courses.

So, I ask, how can you rank a golf course that isn't normally played.  And, even if you rank this gerrymandered golf course, how can you overlook or disregard one of the vital criteria for establishing a ranking ?

[wsmorrison]

Sully,

Come on, no way is it 10 out of 10.  Not even close.   However, not a Macdonald or Raynor in the bunch though 

[Patrick_Mucci]

Will the exposure gained vis a vis the Barclay's enhance it's image ?

Why would a private country club in suburban New York City want its image enhanced?

Perhaps because the members think the course is under rated and unappreciated ?


I think they know what they have (I do not, having never been there) and should not need PGA Tour validation.

You don't host USGA Senior Opens and PGA Tour events if you don't want to enhance your image.

Will the golf course gain stature with this added exposure ?
In the eyes of whom?

The golf world

How often do the PGA Tour Pros rave about a golf course ?

Frequently, and it's usually about "everything is right there in front of you..." and "this course really lets us show of our games, which is what the fans want..."

Shirley, you jest.
PGA Tour Pros complaining is almost a constant.

While Ridgewood is probably a wonderful course, your intoxicated fawning about increased exposure and recognition from and by the PGA Tour players seems contradictory to so many of your posts about the ruination of conditioning and expectations in golf.

Must I teach you everything.

Ridgewood, thankfully, didn't alter their course, as most clubs do, in order to host USGA or PGA events, other than some minor tee changes.

Ridgewood has not been altered/disfigured in order to accomodate the "Big Show"

The course stands in the form it's been in for many years, for all to see.

The one endeavor that was a semi-pre-condition to hosting the USGA Senior Open was the substantive tree pruning and tree removal project that took place years ago.

The golf course had become overgrown, choked off for play.

It's a terrific golf course that is getting the accolades it deserves, even if they're long overdue.


Is this simply the greatest display of homerism since Wayne MOrrison listing 10 William Flynn courses in his personal top 10?

That's not true.
I've been singing Ridgewood's praises for years, but few listened.
I like it better than Baltusrol Lower & Upper.


How far is Ridgewood from your front door?


About 25 minutes, however, Mt Ridge, Essex County East, The Knoll, Montclair, Preakness Hills and others are much closer.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Some claim it's the second best golf course in New Jersey with effectively small, angled, well bunkered greens and interesting topography.

Pat,

Which course are we ranking? You seem to have some strong opinions on composite courses.

I wasn't talking about the composite course, I was talking about the entire course.

Most consider the East/West course to be the better of the three, and I'd agree.[/color]

So, I ask, how can you rank a golf course that isn't normally played.  And, even if you rank this gerrymandered golf course, how can you overlook or disregard one of the vital criteria for establishing a ranking ?


I haven't ranked the composite course, nor did I suggest ranking the composite course.

All three of Ridgewoods nines are terrific, with the East/West considered the strongest combination.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Somebody please load up Patrick's EZ Pass so that he can get out of Jersey and see the best Tilly course in the NY to DC corridor at Baltimore CC.

Mike,

I've played Baltimore CC.

I loved the golf course but thought the two finishing holes were very weak.
I made my comments known to others.

I understand that a recent project addressed that issue and that the course now has a better finish.

When I last looked, Baltimore was not in New Jersey.
I've been in the hospital the last two days.
Did they change New Jersey's southern boundary in my absence ?

[Mike Sweeney]

Some claim it's the second best golf course in New Jersey with effectively small, angled, well bunkered greens and interesting topography.

Pat,

Who are these "some" people and what course are they ranking? East/West, Center/East, Center/West or Composite?

Are these the same people who think the University of Notre Dame is a Top 10 team?  

[Patrick_Mucci]

Some claim it's the second best golf course in New Jersey with effectively small, angled, well bunkered greens and interesting topography.

Pat,

Who are these "some" people and what course are they ranking? East/West, Center/East, Center/West or Composite?

"Some" people are NJ residents who've favored Baltusrol over almost every other course in the State for decades.

Being a visiting alien from other states, you wouldn't be aware of the culture and perception that's been rampant in the state for 50 years or so.


Are these the same people who think the University of Notre Dame is a Top 10 team?  

No, that would be Herb Kirskstreet who claimed, today, on ESPN/Sports Center that ND would win 9 games.

2009 should be the year that ND begins to ride the crest.

Has the BC boat sailed ?

[JESII]

Not that I should wade into a Holy War, but Kerb Hirkstreet seemed to be saying that they have 6 games against patsies and if they split the rest they'll get 9 wins...does that get you in the top 10 these days?

[Patrick_Mucci]

Not that I should wade into a Holy War, but Kerb Hirkstreet seemed to be saying that they have 6 games against patsies and if they split the rest they'll get 9 wins...does that get you in the top 10 these days?

JES II,

ND's schedule has historically been amongst the toughest in the country.

Which teams do you consider "patsies" on their schedule ?

Which school has a higher strength of schedule rating over the last 4-5 decades ?

[Mike Sweeney]

Has the BC boat sailed ? [/b]

Yes but at least our boat is sailing from success this century.  Since we open with Kent State and play Rhode Island this year and the ACC is down, I will not pick on your schedule.

Ridgewood is quite good BUT where is the strategy off the tee on a number of holes? Why are you giving Ridgewood a free pass on some of their tree issues?

[Dunlop_White]

Looks great on TV!

calling Tom Paul, does Craig Ammerman belong here?

[Patrick_Mucci]

Has the BC boat sailed ? [/b]

Yes but at least our boat is sailing from success this century.  Since we open with Kent State and play Rhode Island this year and the ACC is down, I will not pick on your schedule.

Yes, I understand.

Ridgewood is quite good BUT where is the strategy off the tee on a number of holes?

Which holes ?

Why are you giving Ridgewood a free pass on some of their tree issues?

They've mostly resolved the tree issues.
Few, if any impediments remain, and, as I understand it, they continue to prune and remove trees.  It's an ongoing process.

[Mike Sweeney]

Lets start with the first tournament hole. Where is the tee strategy?

[Bill Brightly]

No question, the first hole is very simply and an easy birdie. In fact, the first 5 holes can all be birdied fairly easily with decent drives and accurate iron play But then the course gets really tough as the composite course captures all the hardest holes on the property.

So to win, I think there is great pressure to come out of the shoot HOT because if you don't make a few birdies here, you may be in for a long day.

[Mike Sweeney]

Bill,

Hopefully you are not an ND grad and can explaing the strategy on the #18 composite course:



What Patrick is missing is that the 18 worst holes at Ridgewood (a 27 hole facility is comparable to the 18 best holes at his home course in NJ, Preakness Hills (an 18 hole facility).

Pat being an ND and a Jersey guy simply does not understand that he has a very nice home course!

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