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Carl Nichols

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Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« on: July 21, 2008, 08:12:38 PM »
I have to be in LA next week and it looks like I'll be free Thursday until a 2:20pm flight out of LAX.  Is Rustic the obvious choice to try to play, or is that implausible given its distance to the airport and the possibility of traffic?  Are there other good options closer to the airport?  (The only courses I've played in LA are the Pelican Hill courses in Newport.)  Thanks in advance, and if anyone is interested in playing, please send me a PM.
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David Kelly

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 08:37:46 PM »
Keep in mind that Rustic Canyon is 50 miles from the airport.
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R_Paulis

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 01:50:35 AM »
If you get the earliest tee time - I think it's 6am - you can get finished in 4 hours.  That gives you 4+ hours to get to the airport, return the rental, and get through security. Be careful not to get behind even a small tourney at RC for they usually take 5+ hours.

Do not underestimate LA traffic. In any other world 50 miles should not take more than an hour particularly after the morning commute. But due to neverending construction, inevitable accidents and inane carpool lanes you cannot predict an accurate ETA for LAX. Be sure to take the 118 East to the 405 South for the quickest route.

Security can also be a nightmare. Depending on the terminal, it can be an hour plus...

LA - we love it!
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Carl Nichols

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 02:38:50 PM »
Quote from: R_Paulis on July 22, 2008, 01:50:35 AM
If you get the earliest tee time - I think it's 6am - you can get finished in 4 hours.  That gives you 4+ hours to get to the airport, return the rental, and get through security. Be careful not to get behind even a small tourney at RC for they usually take 5+ hours.

Do not underestimate LA traffic. In any other world 50 miles should not take more than an hour particularly after the morning commute. But due to neverending construction, inevitable accidents and inane carpool lanes you cannot predict an accurate ETA for LAX. Be sure to take the 118 East to the 405 South for the quickest route.

Security can also be a nightmare. Depending on the terminal, it can be an hour plus...

LA - we love it!

Thanks.  At 6am, I sure hope I can play in less than 4 hours! 

Are there other good alternatives closer to the airport than Rustic's 50 miles?
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rjsimper

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 03:10:20 PM »
Probably nothing that's not a muni and therefore impossible to get a time on - courses like Rec Park, Rancho Park, Los Verdes come to mind but all are typically swamped.  Rec Park is about 30 miles, Los Verdes and Rancho Park are more in the 10-15 miles range, and of those Rec Park is your best bet at getting a game.
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Pete Lavallee

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 04:01:07 PM »
Would Palos Verdes CC allow a guest off early; if so that would be a great choice.
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Andy Scanlon

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 04:11:57 PM »
Carl:

Don't know if you are playing alone, but I don't think a single can get a tee time at Rustic Canyon.
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rjsimper

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 04:27:40 PM »
Quote from: Pete Lavallee on July 22, 2008, 04:01:07 PM
Would Palos Verdes CC allow a guest off early; if so that would be a great choice.

Negatory - Open play is only allowed on Mondays and Tuesday through Thursday (or maybe Friday) outside play is only permitted after 1 or 2pm.
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Ian Larson

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 04:41:04 PM »
What about Malibu Country Club?
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Brian Noser

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2008, 04:47:24 PM »
You could most likely get on Angeles National that early. It is a pretty good course up on the 210 in sylmar, it is much closer than Rustic although not as close as some of the other mentioned.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2008, 07:52:51 PM »
If money is no object, Trump International is a possibility, great views, although a wacky course. Not that far from LAX and probably easy to get on early morning.
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David Stamm

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2008, 07:59:44 PM »
Carl, if you can get out early, you should have no problems getting to LAX in time from Rustic. As far as public access (and even most privates in the area) there is Rustic Canyon, and then everything else.
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R_Paulis

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 08:13:24 PM »
As others have stated, RC is the place to play if you're in the LA area. That is if you don't have access to the privates...

I'd forget about Malibu CC. It's not worth the effort it takes to get there from LA. Trump's an option but it's way overpriced for what you get. Getting a time at the other LA publics you'd want to play is unlikely.

I just took a look at the available tee times at RC for the 31st. As of right now the earliest times are available. You need at least a twosome to reserve at RC though. Let me know if you need a partner or two for a group.

PS - happen to be writing this from your area - in DC on business today.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 08:16:27 PM by R_Paulis »
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Carl Nichols

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 09:11:58 AM »
Quote from: R_Paulis on July 23, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
As others have stated, RC is the place to play if you're in the LA area. That is if you don't have access to the privates...

I'd forget about Malibu CC. It's not worth the effort it takes to get there from LA. Trump's an option but it's way overpriced for what you get. Getting a time at the other LA publics you'd want to play is unlikely.

I just took a look at the available tee times at RC for the 31st. As of right now the earliest times are available. You need at least a twosome to reserve at RC though. Let me know if you need a partner or two for a group.

PS - happen to be writing this from your area - in DC on business today.

Thanks very much for the info.  At this point, I'm not sure it's worth hauling my clubs across country for one round, or renting clubs to play at 6am, but if I start getting the itch, I'll send you a PM.
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John Kavanaugh

Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 09:47:33 AM »
Carl,

Don't forget that 6am in LA is 9am in your mind.  The drive to Rustic from the airport is a blast and well worth the effort.  If I were you I would have zero qualms about renting clubs and playing an early morning round.  All you need is a hybrid and putter to have fun at Rustic.

Please note:  I live on eastern time myself and flew out of LA yesterday at 12:45 LA time.  The airport was empty and if I had to wait until 2:20 with nothing to do the boredom would have killed me.  I'd play Rustic at 6am, stop by either the Getty or Reagan Library and arrive at the airport around 1.
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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 09:55:02 AM »
The Getty is fantastic, worth multiple trips.  The Reagan worth it mainly if you're ticking off a list of presidential places.  Better than the Nixon though!

Critically, the In-n-Out is within a mile of the Hertz.
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Carl Nichols

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 10:01:43 AM »
Thanks John and Mark.  The last thing I want to do is be awake at 4am w/ nothing to do; if I don't play golf, I'll certainly find something else to do, and agree that the Getty is terrific (never seen the Reagan Library).
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John Kavanaugh

Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2008, 10:04:41 AM »
The only reason I would go to the Reagan Library is because it is in view of Rustic. 
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David Stamm

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2008, 11:32:50 AM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 25, 2008, 09:47:33 AM
  I'd play Rustic at 6am, stop by either the Getty or Reagan Library and arrive at the airport around 1.


Great advice. The Getty is great. Their collection is worth every effort to see. And the view from there isn't too shabby either.
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Pete Lavallee

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2008, 12:33:24 PM »
Is the Getty still by reservation only or can you just drive in now?
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rjsimper

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2008, 12:44:37 PM »
Quote from: Pete Lavallee on July 25, 2008, 12:33:24 PM
Is the Getty still by reservation only or can you just drive in now?

Drive in...pay for parking, free admission.

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John Kavanaugh

Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2008, 12:48:32 PM »
Getty Villa in Malibu needs an advance ticket.  You gotta love museums where the buildings are the stars.  Note:  I have never been to either but do enjoy the drive by each.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2008, 12:50:20 PM »
Quote from: Mark Bourgeois on July 25, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
The Getty is fantastic, worth multiple trips.  The Reagan worth it mainly if you're ticking off a list of presidential places.  Better than the Nixon though!

Critically, the In-n-Out is within a mile of the Hertz.
Is there one that close to Hertz at LAX?
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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2008, 02:15:36 PM »
Sepulveda Blvd. 0.81 miles to be exact.  Walking distance anywhere but LA.  Backup in event of peak-load tourist infestation is Hollywood Park location down the road -- grimily tourist proof.

I love LA!

Mark
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R_Paulis

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Re: Los Angeles, Thurs, July 31 New
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2008, 04:22:54 PM »
Even if your not a fan of Reagan, having an actual Air Force One inside the museum is worth the price of admission.  At least for me it was.
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