The original 9 holes, was most likely added sometime between, 1907 and 1928. Stiles is credited as the course's first architect, with Ross doing a redesign in 1928. Because Stiles was unkown in 1901, it is pretty likely that he built the course, to its present day 18 hole form, with Ross adding his layers
I never said stiles did work in 1901. I said he likely did work sometime between 1907 and 1928.
It is outside research because it can or can not include information from within clubs. When I look at the 50 year book this week, I'm sure it will have Stiles listed, as it does in the 100 year. What I can't get over is, if Stiles had nothing to do with the course, how does he get included in the 50 year history? At the time of 1947, there are a lot of members at Woodland, who knew Mr. Stiles. If stiles had nothing to do with building any holes, he would not have been listed, and that would have been made sure. If he had done work, he would be listed. Hence, why I think he was listed. His friend Francis Ouimet, whom a member in 1947, most certaintly would have known Stiles did no work at Woodland, and it would have not appeared in the 50 year book.
again, you need to read my posts:
Well the club is listed, as 9 holes in 1901, and had already been incorporated for roughly 4 years. You have Ross listed as the first archietect in 22, but someone had to lay the course used for 20 odd years.
So in the first sentence, I am agreeing with your last post. Yes, in 1899, there had been 9 holes already in existence for a "number of years" Inc. in 1897, the golf guide lists 9 holes in 1901. So again, we are on the same page here.
You have Ross listed as 1915 for Dedham. I am not disputing that. What I am saying is this. From 1901 to 1915, Findaly could have visted in that time period. I am not saying he designed their links in 1897. Im saying that, because he is listed, I would assume he came before 1915, and after the dates you mentioned about his career.
It is my general understanding, that these clubs kept record of their actions, on the presumption that it would be included in the club's history, 100, 200 years down the road.
Do you think a man like, Sargent, with all his lineal ancestors recorded and traced back to the Massachusetts Bay Colony, is going to forget to document the history of his 30 year old club? And if he does, I'm sure The Cabot's, Lowell's, and Peabody's could have remembered to write it down