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Joel Zuckerman

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Thought you fellow golf-lovers would be interested in this diatribe by Michael Lewis, who has written best-sellers like "Liar's Poker," Moneyball" and "The Blind Side."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aeRmNFd5S.Ps&refer=home

I wrote him a respectful email with a contrary opinion which is below (we share the same literary agent, and besides--I thought "The Blind Side" was terrific.)  But some of you might want to give him your thoughts in a more pointed manner.  His email address:  mlewis1@bloomberg.net. 

Michael;
 
I can only assume from your recent golf column that you don't play the game yourself.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Hitting a golf ball with power and precision is extremely hard to do with any consistency.  The mental/psychological demands of the game are ongoing--seemingly on-target shots often take terrible bounces, which can be wearing to the psyche.
 
The world's best players (Tiger, Els, Mickelson) indeed--anyone on the PGA Tour, have a rare combination of power and finesse (the former for 300 yard drives or towering iron shots to the green, the latter for delicate bunker shots or tricky, curling downhill putts) that 99% of the rest of the world simply doesn't posess.
 
Does one need minimal body fat or tremendous endurance to play effectively?  No.  But---the hand/eye coordination, physical strength, flexibility and mental toughness necessary to shoot scores at or near par is beyond the ken of the vast majority of athletes, be they weekend or otherwise.
 

John_Conley

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Is he still married to Tabitha Soren?  Enough about books.  Landing her has to be his greatest accomplishment.

George Pazin

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Can't say that I much care what Michael Lewis - or almost anyone else - thinks about golf. I just know that few feelings in my life match an afternoon on the golf course.

Hey, it more tee times available for the rest of us!

I remember Liar's Poker from my brief stint on the dark side. It was a fun and entertaining read.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Joel Zuckerman

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John;

Yes he is married to her, accoding to Wikipedia:

Lewis was briefly married to former CNBC correspondent Kate Bohner, before marrying the former MTV reporter Tabitha Soren on October 4, 1997. Together they have two daughters and one son and currently live in Berkeley, California.


David Kelly

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I agree with Lewis about how out of place the terms courage and character are when used to describe professional golfers.  

But I think The Onion said it better:


Man Who Used Stick To Roll Ball Into Hole In Ground Praised For His Courage

June 19, 2008 | | Onion Sports

 SAN DIEGO—A man who used several different bent sticks to hit a ball to an area comprised of very short grass surrounding a hole in the ground was praised for his courage Monday after he used a somewhat smaller stick to gently roll the ball into the aforementioned hole in fewer attempts than his competitors. "What guts, what confidence," ESPN commentator Scott Van Pelt said of the man, who was evidently unable to carry his sticks himself, employing someone else to hold the sticks and manipulate the flag sticking out of the hole in the ground while he rolled the ball into it. "You have to be so brave, so self-assured, so strong mentally to [roll a ball into a hole in the ground]. Amazing." The man in question apparently hurt his knee during this activity.
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." - Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.


PCCraig

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Like baseball is any more of a sport than golf? Have you ever seen a picture of John Kruk?

Come on, Moneyball was a good read, but this is trash.
H.P.S.

Craig Sweet

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Carlins rant is a thing of beauty.....I already miss him.
LOCK HIM UP!!!

Jason Mandel

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Michael Lewis is a spectacular author.  I thought Moneyball was fantastic and then I read The Blind Side.  I couldn't stop thinking about The Blind Side for weeks after reading it.  I urge everyone to read The Blind Side.

Jason
You learn more about a man on a golf course than anywhere else

contact info: jasonymandel@gmail.com

David Kelly

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I'd say that "Moneyball" was one of the most influential sports books ever written.

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." - Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.

Tim Pitner

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 04:22:46 PM »
I found the article unoriginal, unperceptive and unfunny.  This guy's a good writer?  I'll take your word for it, but I'll pass. 

David Stamm

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 04:24:08 PM »
I find the comment about not getting hurt on the course funny. I broke my hand playing hitting a tree root that was under the rough I was hitting out of full blast with a 5 iron. Took me 2 years to recover and have never been the same player. I played alot sports when I was younger and have never had an injury that was close.
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Joel Zuckerman

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 04:33:23 PM »
David Stamm:  Me too, though my injuries weren't as severe.  Here's a newspaper column I wrote that ended up as an essay in my first book:

                                    THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL

     
     I haven't played golf since the end of October.  This is an ironic turn of events, considering that the possibility of year-round play was one of the major factors in our decision to migrate south.  When I departed frosty old New England for the Lowcountry, I assumed that my heretofore-standard golf schedule, featuring a Thanksgiving week finale, was a thing of the past.  This year however, my pattern is still the same.  It's not due to a lack of interest, or a hectic schedule, or nostalgia for my old ways.  The reason I'm off the links is as simple as it is unfortunate:  I'm injured.
     I had the phenomenally bad luck of engaging an inch-thick tree root in a little game of "chicken".  This was a mismatch from the opening bell.  Tree root in a TKO.  I'm not looking for a re-match by any means, but it wasn't a fair fight.  This wasn't your standard tree root, lying there plainly visible.  Had that been the case I might have declared an unplayable lie, and taken a much despised penalty stroke along with my drop away from the root.  Or at
least I would have attempted a thin little defensive shot, holding the club lightly and attempting to play my ball out laterally.  Neither of these options were a consideration, because this root was as devious as they come, a real predator. It lay there perfectly camouflaged by a thin layer of autumn leaves, biding its time, patiently waiting for an innocent and unlucky victim.  I was happy to have found my ball at all, in what looked like a decent lie, with a reasonable stance, and with an unimpeded line to the green.  I took out my three iron and attempted to reach said green, a mere 190 yards away.  To make matters worse, my golf swing is rarely compared to those of
Fred Couples or Ernie Els, they of the long and languid swings; swings that look like they are taking place under water.  Mine by comparison starts quickly, picks up speed in the middle and ends in a hurried lurch.  Tempo isn't my strong suit.  My iron came down, met that damned root and stopped dead.  It was like kicking a brick wall in sandals.
     My right hand vibrated with pain.  I walked up the fairway in a daze, knowing full well that I had inflicted some serious damage to my dominant hand.  I rode along in the cart until we reached the turn, anticipating the ice bag that would help to alleviate the initial pain. I happened to run into an orthopedist in the grill room, who was pretty sure I hadn't broken any bones, but advised me to come see him in his office later that week.
     Since that fateful day many weeks ago, I have been x-rayed, bone scanned, and re-x-rayed.  I have used ice, heat, ultrasound, acupuncture, and something called iontopheris.  Besides the orthopedist, I have sought help from an osteopath, a masseuse, a hand surgeon and a physical therapist.  Note:  don't believe anyone who tells you that acupuncture hurts a little.  They are wrong.  It hurts plenty!
     Now almost two months later, my hand doesn't ache or throb, but it’s still weak. I shake hands lefty these days, having been caught in one too many vise grips with my right.  The diagnosis is soft tissue damage, and recovery time is measured in months, not weeks.
     An injury like this helps to put things in perspective.  In the grand scheme of things it really is only a minor setback, but it's hard to maintain composure when it's sunny and 70 degrees on Christmas Day.  It isn't easy to admit in print, but since I'm hurt I hope for bad weather.  Selfish, I know, but when it's 40 degrees or raining I feel better, because there would be no golf that day regardless.
     When this injury has run its course I will walk to the first tee with a brand new attitude, one that will last the rest of my life, or at least until I make my first triple bogey. I will enjoy myself more on the course, and not take for granted the fact that I am healthy and able to play without pain.  Fat shots or thin, slices or hooks, shots that are stiff and shots that are sculled.  I will savor them all, as long as my hand and wrist hold up at the moment of impact.  And one last thing.  Arbor Day is now at the top of my list of least favorite holidays.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2008, 04:33:50 PM »
Other than wondering if this guy watches any other sports to see all the chest bumping, shouting-at-the-heavens, crotch grabbing, head slapping, fist pumping that happens...

The only thing I reallly wondered is:

Wow this guy is so bitter and wound up tight...when's the last time he got laid?

David Stamm

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2008, 04:45:26 PM »
David Stamm:  Me too, though my injuries weren't as severe.  Here's a newspaper column I wrote that ended up as an essay in my first book:

                                    THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL

     
     I haven't played golf since the end of October.  This is an ironic turn of events, considering that the possibility of year-round play was one of the major factors in our decision to migrate south.  When I departed frosty old New England for the Lowcountry, I assumed that my heretofore-standard golf schedule, featuring a Thanksgiving week finale, was a thing of the past.  This year however, my pattern is still the same.  It's not due to a lack of interest, or a hectic schedule, or nostalgia for my old ways.  The reason I'm off the links is as simple as it is unfortunate:  I'm injured.
     I had the phenomenally bad luck of engaging an inch-thick tree root in a little game of "chicken".  This was a mismatch from the opening bell.  Tree root in a TKO.  I'm not looking for a re-match by any means, but it wasn't a fair fight.  This wasn't your standard tree root, lying there plainly visible.  Had that been the case I might have declared an unplayable lie, and taken a much despised penalty stroke along with my drop away from the root.  Or at
least I would have attempted a thin little defensive shot, holding the club lightly and attempting to play my ball out laterally.  Neither of these options were a consideration, because this root was as devious as they come, a real predator. It lay there perfectly camouflaged by a thin layer of autumn leaves, biding its time, patiently waiting for an innocent and unlucky victim.  I was happy to have found my ball at all, in what looked like a decent lie, with a reasonable stance, and with an unimpeded line to the green.  I took out my three iron and attempted to reach said green, a mere 190 yards away.  To make matters worse, my golf swing is rarely compared to those of
Fred Couples or Ernie Els, they of the long and languid swings; swings that look like they are taking place under water.  Mine by comparison starts quickly, picks up speed in the middle and ends in a hurried lurch.  Tempo isn't my strong suit.  My iron came down, met that damned root and stopped dead.  It was like kicking a brick wall in sandals.
     My right hand vibrated with pain.  I walked up the fairway in a daze, knowing full well that I had inflicted some serious damage to my dominant hand.  I rode along in the cart until we reached the turn, anticipating the ice bag that would help to alleviate the initial pain. I happened to run into an orthopedist in the grill room, who was pretty sure I hadn't broken any bones, but advised me to come see him in his office later that week.
     Since that fateful day many weeks ago, I have been x-rayed, bone scanned, and re-x-rayed.  I have used ice, heat, ultrasound, acupuncture, and something called iontopheris.  Besides the orthopedist, I have sought help from an osteopath, a masseuse, a hand surgeon and a physical therapist.  Note:  don't believe anyone who tells you that acupuncture hurts a little.  They are wrong.  It hurts plenty!
     Now almost two months later, my hand doesn't ache or throb, but it’s still weak. I shake hands lefty these days, having been caught in one too many vise grips with my right.  The diagnosis is soft tissue damage, and recovery time is measured in months, not weeks.
     An injury like this helps to put things in perspective.  In the grand scheme of things it really is only a minor setback, but it's hard to maintain composure when it's sunny and 70 degrees on Christmas Day.  It isn't easy to admit in print, but since I'm hurt I hope for bad weather.  Selfish, I know, but when it's 40 degrees or raining I feel better, because there would be no golf that day regardless.
     When this injury has run its course I will walk to the first tee with a brand new attitude, one that will last the rest of my life, or at least until I make my first triple bogey. I will enjoy myself more on the course, and not take for granted the fact that I am healthy and able to play without pain.  Fat shots or thin, slices or hooks, shots that are stiff and shots that are sculled.  I will savor them all, as long as my hand and wrist hold up at the moment of impact.  And one last thing.  Arbor Day is now at the top of my list of least favorite holidays.


Joel, sounds eerily like what happened to me. I suffered the same injury that John Cook, Brad Faxon and alot of other players both famous and not so. I broke the hook of the hamate bone. For tour players like Cook, they just had an operation and had it removed. I opted for the less conventional route. I used to be about an 8 handicap. Folks on the site that have played with me will tell you that I don't play half that good anymore. But I'm thankful I'm able to play again and enjoy it for what I can do, not what I can't. Once in a while it gets frustrating on the course because I think about what I used to be able to do, but then I remind myself that I'm lucky to be playing period and take it in stride the best I can. So you could say that I'm an advocate of tree clearing....
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Bob_Huntley

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2008, 07:23:37 PM »
I agree with Lewis about how out of place the terms courage and character are when used to describe professional golfers.  

But I think The Onion said it better:


Man Who Used Stick To Roll Ball Into Hole In Ground Praised For His Courage

June 19, 2008 | | Onion Sports

 SAN DIEGO—A man who used several different bent sticks to hit a ball to an area comprised of very short grass surrounding a hole in the ground was praised for his courage Monday after he used a somewhat smaller stick to gently roll the ball into the aforementioned hole in fewer attempts than his competitors. "What guts, what confidence," ESPN commentator Scott Van Pelt said of the man, who was evidently unable to carry his sticks himself, employing someone else to hold the sticks and manipulate the flag sticking out of the hole in the ground while he rolled the ball into it. "You have to be so brave, so self-assured, so strong mentally to [roll a ball into a hole in the ground]. Amazing." The man in question apparently hurt his knee during this activity.




I have been a boxing fan for a long time and one of my favorite pugilists was Randy "Tex" Cobb, not for his boxing abilities but for his wit and courage.

He made an observation whilst watching a golf broadcast and the announcer, a forerunner to Jim Nance, rhapsodized about, I think it was Curtis Strange, and the courage he had shown in taking a dangerous line to the green, or some such nonsense. Cobb then said something  that I bring up whenever I hear the word used in a golf broadcast. It was short and  simple, he said "Courage my ass, courage is when Earnie Shavers hits you and you get up."

Bob
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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2008, 07:36:39 PM »
Bob

He also is an actor without peer, that Randall.

Thespianly,
Mark

Michael Blake

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2008, 07:38:50 PM »
Didn't read his article.  Why bother?


But Liar's Poker/Moneyball/Blind Side are 3 of my favorites.

I think a summer re-reading is in order.

Dan Kelly

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2008, 08:54:03 PM »
Dear Mr. Lewis,

You're an attention-seeking fool, and (despite appearances) every one of us has much better ways of spending our time than attempting to clue you in.

Neither rich nor important, but sincerely,
Dan
« Last Edit: June 26, 2008, 09:21:43 PM by Dan Kelly »
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Peter Pallotta

Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2008, 09:27:36 PM »
Quod ut, Mr. Lewis, est permaneo vox.

Peter

Michael Robin

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2008, 09:43:34 PM »
Check out his story about Cuban Baseball in this month's Vanity Fair.


JNC Lyon

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2008, 10:08:52 PM »
People who don't play golf who try to pass judgment as to its difficulty are usually wrong.  Michael Lewis clearly doesn't play golf, so he doesn't realize that it is the most mentally challenging sport in the world.  It is also worthless to argue with someone like this.  He'll simply never realize the greatness of golf.
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

Dan Kelly

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2008, 10:12:11 PM »
It is also worthless to argue with someone like this.  He'll simply never realize the greatness of golf.

There's one other possibility, with a guy like Lewis:

He *will* realize the greatness of golf -- and then make like he was the first to do so.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2008, 11:48:06 PM »
That article, written for Bloomberg (so read by a lot of "rich, important people"), was like a Skip Bayless diatribe...all about the reaction it was intended to generate.  Based on the comments here and on a lot of golf boards, he accomplished his goal.
"GOLF COURSES SHOULD BE ENJOYED RATHER THAN RATED" - Tom Watson

Nick Church

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Re: Best-selling author Michael Lewis rants about his disdain for golf
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2008, 03:50:37 PM »
Dear Mr. Lewis,

You're an attention-seeking fool, and (despite appearances) every one of us has much better ways of spending our time than attempting to clue you in.

Neither rich nor important, but sincerely,
Dan

As much as I enjoyed Moneyball , and am now enjoying The Blindside, I say to you, Dan --- BRAVO!

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