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Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« on: June 24, 2008, 03:19:27 AM »

I was back in this glorious part of the world this past week playing Strandhill, Rosses Point, Carne & Enniscrone.  All four courses are completely different.  Rosses Point was certainly the star in terms of the combination of land forms, burns & bunkers to create architectural interest.  I previosuly wasn't overly keen on this course, but this additional visit confirms that the course is better than I  thought.  There are still aspects I didn't like and wonder why simple changes aren't made, but there you go.  Another surprise for me was Strandhill.  The contrast of this very natural course with Rosses Point's almost obsessional attempt to create strategy was striking.  There is no question Rosses Point is the better course, but I am not so sure I would rather pay double the green fee for the priveledge on a regular basis.  First up, Strandhill.

The 1st is a lovely opener.  A sharpish legger left and up the hill.  Water is down the right.  My carry over fears from Wales/Hillside of hellish rough were immediately put to rest.  It was obvious the club had cut the rough down and created very generous landing areas - essential on this very firm, undulating land where wind also plays a factor.  

The green runs away from the fairway and is well protected by bunkers on the high side.  I am not sure of what this look is all about, perhaps easy maintenance?


I think this pic shows the severity of the front to back slope.  How one hits it close in downwind conditions is a question for the ages, but its also why these sorts of holes are what help to define links golf.


After stepping on the 2nd tee I began to think this course could be something very special.  The play for this short par 3 playing quite long on the day was to bang it off the left hill (next tee) and hope for the roll.  I know it was possible because a chap in our group recorded the third hole in 1 for this society (with no name).


Things cooled off on the 3rd, but the wind still made the hole a thinker.  

The 4th continues to climb up the holler.  The wind is encouraging a visit to the beach - still hard left.  Below is the approach after a very good drive.  


The 5th is a long par 5 that shares a fairway with 16 - for those that pick a conservative line.  The correct line is to drive over the gunge to a fairway in plain site, but never the less difficult to make out.  In all honesty, there must be width of 250 yards and the tee is high above the fairway, but for the uninitiated, its essentially blind because the first time player has no clue of distances.  Below is what remains of this cracking hole after two blows into the wind.  


A look at the problems awaiting for player who cuts the corner perhaps too well.  


#6 is a dogleg right over dunes for the brave.  There is however, plenty of room left, but this inevitably means that a very long 2nd is required.  Below is the approach after an aggressive drive.  I like how both kick in sides are guarded by bunkers.  It really rewards the guy taking the risk with the tee shot and earning centre of the fairway position.


From this angle olne can see how the safe drive out left leaves this angle of approach whereby balls get kicked away from the green.


The 7th proved to be mediocre which is a great shame because this hole runs along the shore.  The 8th is a lovely little blind, driveable par 4 that perhaps could have been better if an incentive to go for the green was on offer.  The direct line to the hole is left over gunge and the fairway canters right.  Its a bit of a crazy choice going for the green as holding it was near on impossible and the worst of the rough was behind the green.  Here is the heir flick wedge approach.


The 9th takes the player into the less admirable section of the course.  Its decent golf, but no great shakes.  The good thing is, there are more cracking holes to come.

13 is a very intimidating hole.  One senses there is severe trouble left and more room right than it appears off the tee.  Indeed this is the case, but to commit to the utterly blind shot not having information concerning the carry distance or where the green is takes plenty of cahones.  The funk continues with the green nestled in a sort of bowl.  Like on the tee, one may guess there is more room to the right than it appears.  This time, that guess would be wrong.  However, there is a kick in which effectively makes this green a bit larger for the approach.  The pic below is from behind the green.


The 14th continues the great fun.  Once again, I don't know how one hits it close to this front pin with a 25 mph tailwind, but it doesn't seem to matter.  


The 15th doglegs hard left and back up the hill to a green next to the 13th tee.  This is one tough bugger trying to hold the fairway and green. The approach.


Unfortunately, #s 16 & 17 are not the sort of crazed holes just previously played.  They are decent holes, but not the type to implant in your memory.

As was the case earlier, a string of of easyish holes predeeded a corker.  The 18 is just that.  430 yards up the hill into the wind with a wicked right to left sloping green.  The rain was moving in so I failed to get a photo.  

Because of the handful of blandish holes I couldn't give Strandhill a star, but I would recommend it.  Many in our group were so so on Strandhill, but I was taken with it and in terms of favourites would only place Strandhill slightly behind the others.  As we all know, Ireland has become frightfully expensive.  Not so with Strandhill.  With its 40 Euro day rate it competes with the best of the bargain courses to be found in GB&I and I will certainly seek a return engagement.  

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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 04:24:37 AM »

Thanks Sean... Strandhill is a course I have still never made it to...

I'm beginning to think that the West / North-West of Ireland has a bigger number of top quality golf courses than anywhere else on the planet...
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 04:30:45 AM »

Sean:

Amazing.  Thank you.

Do you think you could make a master directory of your course reviews like Art made for the Pacific Dunes photo tour?  I think it would be great to have a single thread directory where we could go and review all of these amazing posts.  Keep up the great work.

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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 05:03:02 AM »

Sean
It looks like great fun. Were you able to get any info on the history of this course?
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 07:36:06 AM »

 Sean,

   I thought my next trip would only be Donegal, but you have convinced me to start here on my way north, thanks.
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 07:44:09 AM »

Sean:

Love the terrain; the cartpaths are quite scarring to an otherwise interesting landscape (see pics 2,3 and 5 esp.). Can't wait to see the Carne thread.
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 09:29:45 AM »

great pictures.  i hadn't heard much about strandhill.  the course looks like a blast to play.  i even got a kick out of the turret-looking bunker on the first hole.  yes, it's manufactured, but it somehow seems to scream "bunker".  it has almost a wwII vibe to it.  that said, i'm not sure i'd want to see an entire course of bunkers like that. 
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2008, 10:35:57 AM »

Quote from: Tom MacWood on June 24, 2008, 05:03:02 AM
Sean
It looks like great fun. Were you able to get any info on the history of this course?
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No, I don't have any idea who did what at Strandhill.  Though its obvious that it wasn't just a botch job.

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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2008, 10:42:38 AM »

I think I made a mistake missing this course.  When I played Sligo the guys in the pro shop told me to skip it.  They dissed it pretty badly.  Not sure why when I see the pictures.
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 02:56:18 PM »

Quote from: Tom MacWood on June 24, 2008, 05:03:02 AM
Sean
It looks like great fun. Were you able to get any info on the history of this course?

Trolleys and Squibs a touring book from yr. 2000  give it two shamrocks and say it was redesigned to 18 holes by Eddie Hackett.   The authors Loise and Rick Miracle take issue with how tight someof it is and 2someof the greensare severely undulating".   Sounds like GCA heaven. Grin


Again thanks, Sean.
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 04:05:12 PM »

Tony

One of the very cool things about Strandhill is that it has just about as many superb holes as all the other courses in the area.  Golfers claim that golf is not about the good shots, but how good the bad ones are.  Perhaps the quality of a course can best be determined by how good the the weak holes are. 

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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 06:16:34 PM »

Thanks for the great memories of Strandhill, Sean.

As for routing credit, the course was originally laid out as a nine-holer in the early 1930s, was extended to 18 holes in 1970 by John McGonigle (head professional at Rosses Point at the time) - he gets the credit for the 13th, among other holes - and further refined by Martin Niland in the 1980s.   All in all, it is mostly a home-made affair, and a charming one at that!
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2008, 01:17:02 AM »

Quote from: Bart Bradley on June 24, 2008, 04:30:45 AM
Sean:

Amazing.  Thank you.

Do you think you could make a master directory of your course reviews like Art made for the Pacific Dunes photo tour?  I think it would be great to have a single thread directory where we could go and review all of these amazing posts.  Keep up the great work.

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That would be interesting to do.  I have posted pix of one hell of a load of GB&I courses.  When combined with Philip G's, Tony M's and a few others it could be quite an archive.  I am afraid it is down to Ran to organize.  I delete nearly all the pix I take after posting here and so GCA.com is the only depository I use. 

Ciao 
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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 11:32:47 PM »

Quote from: Sean Arble on June 30, 2008, 01:17:02 AM
Quote from: Bart Bradley on June 24, 2008, 04:30:45 AM
Sean:

Amazing.  Thank you.

Do you think you could make a master directory of your course reviews like Art made for the Pacific Dunes photo tour?  I think it would be great to have a single thread directory where we could go and review all of these amazing posts.  Keep up the great work.

Bart

Bart

That would be interesting to do.  I have posted pix of one hell of a load of GB&I courses.  When combined with Philip G's, Tony M's and a few others it could be quite an archive.  I am afraid it is down to Ran to organize.  I delete nearly all the pix I take after posting here and so GCA.com is the only depository I use. 

Ciao 

I had been thinking along the same lines as Bart. These types of photo course reviews are one of my favorite parts of this site. Sean, yours especially are so well shot and written. Thanks for doing these!

I just went back to investigate taking it upon myself putting together a thread for these like Art's for PD. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of the older photos are no longer being hosted where they originally were.

I assume this is a case of it being free hosting and if the files are not accessed frequently enough, the hosting service makes them no longer available. Some of them are not even that old.

Not sure what can be done about this, but it is a shame. Below are a couple of examples. It would be nice if we could come up with a common photo hosting site that everyone here could use where we know this wouldn't happen. I'd be happy to chip in on that.

Reef

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Re: Mayo & Sligo: Strandhill
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 11:59:23 PM »

Quote from: Reef Wilson on July 02, 2008, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: Sean Arble on June 30, 2008, 01:17:02 AM
Quote from: Bart Bradley on June 24, 2008, 04:30:45 AM
Sean:

Amazing.  Thank you.

Do you think you could make a master directory of your course reviews like Art made for the Pacific Dunes photo tour?  I think it would be great to have a single thread directory where we could go and review all of these amazing posts.  Keep up the great work.

Bart

Bart

That would be interesting to do.  I have posted pix of one hell of a load of GB&I courses.  When combined with Philip G's, Tony M's and a few others it could be quite an archive.  I am afraid it is down to Ran to organize.  I delete nearly all the pix I take after posting here and so GCA.com is the only depository I use. 

Ciao 

I had been thinking along the same lines as Bart. These types of photo course reviews are one of my favorite parts of this site. Sean, yours especially are so well shot and written. Thanks for doing these!

I just went back to investigate taking it upon myself putting together a thread for these like Art's for PD. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of the older photos are no longer being hosted where they originally were.

I assume this is a case of it being free hosting and if the files are not accessed frequently enough, the hosting service makes them no longer available. Some of them are not even that old.

Not sure what can be done about this, but it is a shame. Below are a couple of examples. It would be nice if we could come up with a common photo hosting site that everyone here could use where we know this wouldn't happen. I'd be happy to chip in on that.

Reef

PENNARD REVISITED - back 9

Stoneham

Reef

I too think its a shame that much of the meat n bones of this site is lost while a load of garbage is kept.  I spose thats how the system works - much like the rest of life.  To be fair (and I can't speak for anybody else), I don't in anyway edit these reviews and because of this I don't see any huge loss.  If they were to be kept on file I may do less of them because the editing process is the real time cruncher.  Even so, all considered, I do think some sort of effort should be made to preserve these reviews by everybody.  I don't know how many times I forget about a course I saw reviewed and can't remember when or where (is there a song there?).  Perhaps its as simple as Ran creating a member review section where these deals can be kept.

Ciao
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