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kconway

Doak Confidential Guide
« on: June 19, 2008, 11:40:39 AM »
Is there a new edition/reprinting of the existing edition coming out?
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JC Jones

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 12:09:42 PM »
Any day now, i think.  Its going to be a package offering with "The Making of Pacific Dunes."

  ;);D ;D ;D ;D
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Michael Dugger

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 01:01:48 PM »
Confidential Guide?

I've never heard of this book.
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 01:03:18 PM »
Quote from: Michael Dugger on June 19, 2008, 01:01:48 PM
Confidential Guide?

I've never heard of this book.


It's like Brigadoon.
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 01:07:42 PM »
KC - don't expect an update until Doak retires...
He purchased the rights when sleeping bear was closing shop.

The fellas are poking a little fun.
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Jay Kirkpatrick

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 01:49:07 PM »
best investment i've ever made... and i'm in the financial advice business.
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Jeff_Lewis

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 02:48:29 PM »
If anybody is looking I have an extra copy or two, for whatever market price is.
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Ken Moum

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 03:32:47 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_Lewis on June 19, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
If anybody is looking I have an extra copy or two, for whatever market price is.

That's the problem.

Figuring out the market price. Some people think they are worth at least $1,000-$2,000, but one just sold on eBay for ~$400.

Ken
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JC Jones

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 04:35:29 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_Lewis on June 19, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
If anybody is looking I have an extra copy or two, for whatever market price is.

I'll give you $50 for one..... ;)
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Brett Morris

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 04:02:03 AM »
Quote from: Jeff_Lewis on June 19, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
If anybody is looking I have an extra copy or two, for whatever market price is.

Jeff,

I'm heading to the US in three weeks.  If you are keen to offload one, please let me know with a price you are looking at.

Thanks.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 01:05:31 PM »
Isn't that the title of the next movie "Indiana Jones and the search for the affordable Confidential Guide"? :o ;D
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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 03:11:04 PM »
Quote from: JC Jones on June 19, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
Quote from: Jeff_Lewis on June 19, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
If anybody is looking I have an extra copy or two, for whatever market price is.

I'll give you $50 for one..... ;)

Jeff, don't let JC lowball you.  I'll give you $75.  50% more. 
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 03:15:40 PM »
Quote from: Tim Leahy on June 20, 2008, 01:05:31 PM
Isn't that the title of the next movie "Indiana Jones and the search for the affordable Confidential Guide"? :o ;D

Yes it is, Tim, except that since Harrison Ford is too old, they're getting  the kid who played Doogie Howser.  It's called "type-casting"....

Peter
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Jason Fiorita

Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 03:53:37 PM »
Jeff I would be interested in one of the copies.  What ever market price you determine, please let me know.

Thank You
Jason
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kconway

Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 10:01:04 AM »
jeff,

how do i contact you to discuss buying one of your copies?

kelly
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Jeff_Lewis

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 10:27:49 AM »
I didn't mean for a "commercial" thread to get any legs...sorry Ran.  Anyway, I have two copies in very good shape that I would sell for whatever price the ebay auction running now ends at.  Send me a pm through the site if interested, I'd prefer to end this thread.
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kconway

Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 10:31:17 AM »
i can be reached at kelly_conway@eloyalty.com
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 10:35:31 AM »
Quote from: Tim Leahy on June 20, 2008, 01:05:31 PM
Isn't that the title of the next movie "Indiana Jones and the search for the affordable Confidential Guide"? :o ;D

Nope.

But here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/6d6n9j
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Ian_L

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2008, 08:30:27 PM »
From the Renaissance Golf Design website:

"NOTE: Renaissance Golf Design reacquired the copyright from Sleeping Bear Press and plan a reprint in 2005 or 2006"

Have these plans been hashed?
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David Stamm

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2008, 08:33:09 PM »
That sound was the thud of the existing ones values hitting the floor.......
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2008, 08:43:55 PM »
Dan Kelly,

I don't want you to think that your reference went unnoticed.  I nearly wet myself when I saw "It's like Brigadoon."  How funny and how appropriate was that comment.  The Buffalo Public Library System has a copy and, for some unknown reason, does not have it in the rare books section.  They don't have a clue that it shouldn't be available for public consumption.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2008, 09:45:06 PM »
As I've said here several times, I have no current plans to do an update of the book, and won't tackle it as long as I remain busy as an architect.  The only updated version is on the laptop from which I'm typing.
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Ian_L

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2008, 12:38:07 AM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on September 03, 2008, 09:45:06 PM
As I've said here several times, I have no current plans to do an update of the book, and won't tackle it as long as I remain busy as an architect.  The only updated version is on the laptop from which I'm typing.

Sorry about that, I'm new to the forums. I did search past forum posts (that's how I found this one) but apparently missed your previous comments.  Thanks for letting me know.
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Rob Rigg

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Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2008, 12:44:09 AM »
Tom,

I will never ask again about if/when "The Making of Pacific Dunes" will be published either . . .  ;D
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Andy Doyle

Re: Doak Confidential Guide
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2008, 12:24:00 PM »
For historical accuracy, can Tom (or anyone else) give the details/chronology of the various versions of the Confidential Guide?

I understand it started with a self-printed version distributed to friends and that there are a couple of published versions, one with some errors that were subsequently corrected.

What's the CG's geneology?


Andy
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