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Garland Bayley

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #100 on: May 30, 2008, 12:39:03 PM »
Dang! I thought of putting Rulewich up, but not knowing much about him, I figured he was too obscure. I hear more about Hurdzan/Fry, so I put Fry up instead.
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BCrosby

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #101 on: May 30, 2008, 01:44:10 PM »
Jerry Pate
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #102 on: May 30, 2008, 03:43:12 PM »
Quote from: Matt_Ward on May 27, 2008, 10:39:12 AM
Had the opportunity to see a previous Golf World that highlighted the top 10 underrated architects of the 20th century. It seems little doubt to me that Ron Whitten has a major hand on the listing.

By chance, I spoke with Ron W just after my last post. As it turns out, he had nothing to do with this article.....or was having one helluva senior moment! ;D
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Allan Long

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #103 on: May 30, 2008, 06:19:28 PM »
Quote from: Anthony Pioppi on May 30, 2008, 12:32:14 PM


Howard Watson         John Watson    Willie Watson  Willie Davis  Willie Dunn  Willie Park (Sr.) Willie Smith


Blind Willie McTell      Blind Lemon Jefferson  Blind Lemon Pledge


Alexander Bell    Earl Lee (Smiley) Bell    William Francis Bell     William Park Bell     




Wasn't Blind Lemon Jefferson's construction foreman Bleeding Gums Murphy??


How about Ed Seay?
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #104 on: May 30, 2008, 09:18:53 PM »
Matts clue about the last living one starting outside golf design, suggests a pro, perhaps Tom Weiskoph?  Or even Deane Beamen?

Other than that, there would be land planners (Graves) insurance salesman (Dye) Engineers (Joe Finger, not dead in 1999 if that is the criteria)
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #105 on: May 30, 2008, 10:51:41 PM »
What about Red Lawrence?


Anthony

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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #106 on: May 30, 2008, 11:00:39 PM »
                                                H.C.
                                                Fownes


     Perry Dye






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Adam Clayman

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #107 on: May 30, 2008, 11:34:40 PM »
Quote from: Adam Clayman on May 28, 2008, 11:30:39 AM
Is there anything to you saying it's Whitten and Golf World?

Hmmm?

Whitten was not involved, per the horses mouth.

So, this leaves us with Golf World and who made the list?

How about that guy that designed DF?
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Jim Nugent

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #108 on: May 31, 2008, 12:47:20 AM »
Quote from: Matt_Ward on May 30, 2008, 11:51:26 AM

Roger Rulewich is correcto !!!


Rulewich of Yale fame? 

What are some of his achievements? 
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #109 on: May 31, 2008, 08:29:55 AM »
Jim:

The one and the same.  He's designed a couple of solid courses here and there and truly atrocious course in Connecticut called Fox Hopyard. I think his Cumpin Fox in Western Massachusetts is overrated.

Anthony

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Phil_the_Author

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #110 on: May 31, 2008, 08:55:08 AM »
Dennis Griffiths?
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W.H. Cosgrove

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #111 on: May 31, 2008, 09:19:04 AM »
Jay Morrish .......Never Mind
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #112 on: May 31, 2008, 09:32:12 AM »
Jamie Dunn

John Duncan Dunn

Seymour Dunn

All Dunn

Tom Dunn

Willie Dunn

Willie Dunn, Jr.

May Dunn Hupfel


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Phil_the_Author

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #113 on: May 31, 2008, 09:33:34 AM »
Tony,

You "Dunn" yet?  :o
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #114 on: May 31, 2008, 10:15:44 AM »



                             

                     Some would say, "Under Done," others would say, "Over Done."




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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #115 on: May 31, 2008, 10:51:51 AM »
Harry Robb

 Russell Roberts

  Allan Robertson

   David Robertson

    Cabell Robinson

     Clinton Robinson

      John Robinson

       Theodore Robinson

        William Robinson

         Robinson Crusoe

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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #116 on: May 31, 2008, 10:55:45 AM »
Red Lawrence
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Allan Long

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #117 on: May 31, 2008, 11:20:59 AM »
Quote from: Philip Young on May 31, 2008, 09:33:34 AM
Tony,

You "Dunn" yet?  :o

Philip,

Don't encourage him. Next, Tony will come up with Robert Jack Ross, Philip MacKenzie Ross, Philip Michael Thomas, David Thomas, etc. We may lose control of this thread.  ::)

Jim,

The words Rulewich, Yale and Fame in the same sentence? Ugh........  Somewhere CBM et al. are sighing.
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #118 on: May 31, 2008, 11:35:43 AM »
                           

                                           John Byron Nelson, Jr.


                                        Larry Gene Nelson

                                                             
                                                        Full Nelson


                                                Robert David Nelson

                                               Willie Nelson
 
                                                     Nelson Mandela
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #119 on: June 01, 2008, 10:21:39 AM »
             


                                                        Bernard von Limburger
                                                              designer of
       
                                                     Oberschwaben-Bad Waldsee GC



 I think his designs are cheesy! Wooooo hoooo, thank you very much, good night - hey, try the veal - thanks again. You've been a wonderful audience.


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RJ_Daley

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Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #120 on: June 01, 2008, 01:45:26 PM »
Some dead guy named H.I. Wilson, or was it H.I. Hiakawa?  He was a financial man who understudied the great C.B. MacDonald. 

Art Johnson, still alive. 
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Matt_Ward

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #121 on: June 01, 2008, 10:13:40 PM »
Guys, guys, guys:

With all this expertise there is still one person missing.

I salute Jeff B in mentioning Joe Finger who is one of the top ten.

However, guys you are no where near getting the final person. I have already provided a clue and there will be no further ones coming.

The correct answer will be posted by Monday unless someone can nail him before them.

Good luck -- many of you certainly need it and then some ... ;D
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #122 on: June 01, 2008, 10:30:36 PM »
Joe Finger and Roger Rulewich?

These guys had their heads jammed up their shagbags when they came up with this list.


Anthony


P.S. Red Lawrence?
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Matt_Ward

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #123 on: June 01, 2008, 10:34:55 PM »
Tony:

Red is dead as a choice -- it's time to put on your thinking gap.

One other thing -- I have not said the list reflects my thoughts on the subject - clearly it does with Golf World when they printed the article.

The remaining gent is someone who gained his fame prior to getting involved with architecture -- in fact, his partner is still active in course designs -- many of which are overseas.

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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Golf World's Underrated Architects of the 20th Century
« Reply #124 on: June 01, 2008, 10:44:23 PM »
Time to put on our thinking gaps -- and for Anthony to lay off the Narragansetts.

Michael Wolveridge
Peter Thomson
John Fought
Dean Beaman
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