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Greg Holland

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14th at Yeamans Hall Club
« on: May 14, 2008, 02:55:11 PM »
In his write up, Ran describes this hole as a Raynor original, but he also notes that "More dirt was moved in the creation of this green pad than on any other. The result is striking, with a twelve-foot deep bunker diagonally across the green's left and a seven foot deep bunker straight down its right."  Others have described it as a "knoll" hole.

So, for you Raynor experts out there, is Yeamans Hall's 14th a proper knoll hole? 

More generally, what are the best examples of a knoll hole?

Jon Spaulding

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Re: 14th at Yeamans Hall Club
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 05:02:46 PM »
I cannot comment on #14 @ Yeamans, but #13 at Piping Rock is certainly a strong example:



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Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: 14th at Yeamans Hall Club
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 05:23:00 PM »
This Sleepy Hollow hole appears to be more dramatic than the one at Yeamans.
However it looks like there is one big similarity.  Both holes have the succeeding tee directly behind the green.  A great feature.
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John Shimp

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Re: 14th at Yeamans Hall Club
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 09:32:00 PM »
Lynn,
I don't know the hole you refer to at Sleepy Hollow but I can say that the 14th at Yeamans Hall is really dramatic.  Plays just below 400 yds slightly uphill, not a real hard driving hole but the drive is real important as the green is a real prize to hit as recovery is really difficult from all sides not just the front left bunker mentioned above.  A short vs mid-iron really helps to hold the green as it is firm and very sloping to the left.  The green itself is large but somehow it plays small.  A 2-putt is also hard to come by if you are more than 20 ft from the hole which is usually the case.  I love the hole and the green and can't wait to play it in the round.  14 also happens to be at the edge of the property and you can see a lot of marsh from the green.  Agreed on the tee box behine the green.  15 happens to be a spectacular double dogleg par 4.

Greg Holland

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Re: 14th at Yeamans Hall Club
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 07:42:29 AM »
The 14th is very dramatic -- there is also a valley in front of the green rather than a bunker like in the picture above.  The 14th is also preceded by a very good Eden hole, then, as noted, followed by a Prize Dog Leg hole at 15 which is the hardest par 4 on the course --  455 yards which can play straight into the wind.  Could be the best 3 hole stretch on a course with many terrific holes.


John Shimp

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Re: 14th at Yeamans Hall Club
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 10:02:05 AM »
Then its followed by 16.  A great biarritz hole with a lot of length.