Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
March 20, 2010, 03:03:18 AM
 
 
  • Architecture Timeline
  • Courses by Country
  • Feature Interview
  • The Next 50
  • Discussion Group
  • In My Opinion
  • Golf & Travel
  • Art & Architecture
  • Contributions
Golf Club AtlasGolfClubAtlas.comGolf Course Architecture (Moderators: Ben Cowan-Dewar, Ran Morrissett)HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
Pages: [1]
« previous next »
Print
Author Topic: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days  (Read 631 times)
Sean Arble
Sr. Member
****
Online Online

Posts: 6876


We're gonna take the suburbs to the stars.


HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« on: March 30, 2008, 05:41:38 PM »

I was eagerly awaiting this game at Harlech to see if the course was as good a my memory suggested.  After reading what many people on this site wrote I was beginning to doubt myself.  All is well with my memory!  The course impressed me as much as on previous visits.  What I walked away with today was an immense appreciation for the bunkering.  Simply stated, Harlech, with its tremendous variety in style and strategic placement, is one of the best bunkered courses I have ever experienced.  The weather was far kinder than the previous few days, but still blowing 20-25 mph quite steadily.  

1 goes out and 2 comes back.  

The 3rd goes back out and really opens the course so far as I am concerned.  The terrain is no different than the first two holes.  In fact, the terrain is largely flat until the 11th.  However, there is plenty of good golf before then.  #3 is quite a tight driving hole for this 450ish yard par 4 - one of many back breaking two shotters on this par 69 layout.


The different styles of bunkering become very apparent when compared to the opening two holes.  The 3rd sports this centreline bunker with a green cruelly small for the length of the hole.  To top it off, the green runs from front to back.  This is one great hole.  


The 4th is the first of five par 3s and its a good one.  The green rests on a slight table and runs hard from left to right.  As if often the case on links, things seem fine until you get behind your ball and realize that getting close with a chip is near on impossible.  It looks gentle enough, but don't miss it left this tee shot left.


#6 is a clever hole in that the player has a ground option off the left off the green, thus avoiding the front bunker.  However, a bunker awaits on the left for the overly cautiously approach.  

#s 7 & 8 are reachable par 5s, but likely only one can be reached on the same day.  The kicker is these are the only three shotters on the course so one or the other must be taken advantage of.  Harlech is famed for playing very stingy to its par of 69.  

The 9th and 10th run parallel to the beach.  #10 can especially play long into a prevailing wind.  

#11 offers a bit of a respite as its quite short, but it still plays tricky.


#12 requires the player to navigate between the bunkering for the drive - no easy task in a harsh crosswind.  


#13 is another tough two shotter likely requiring two woods to get near the green.  The approach is tricky with wind off the right as bunkers protect this side and the green slopes from the right.


Even some of the par 3s take some hitting to reach.  In these conditions I hit driver on the 14th, a blind shot over a rough laden flat area.    

The 15th isn't much easier.  Two woods were required.  The drive is a classic bite off as much as dare type.  The approach is often blind down to a semi punch bowl.  If there is a signature hole at Harlech, #15 is it.


A look at the green from the 16th tee.


#16 is a wonderful driving hole with a humpback fairway.  

It seems to me that the 17th has been radically altered.  The centreline bunkers used to be on the left of the fairway.  I am not sure, but I think the practice ground signified by the oob has been extended closer to the fairway so more fairway out to the left was created.  The approach to 17.


Just to mess with ya, another style of bunker, a long strip cross bunker which must be carried for the approach.  With the changes, I believe the 17th has become the best hole on the course and makes for a grand penultimate hole.  


The course finishes with a bland par 3, but no matter, Harlech is still grand with much to offer to the visiting golfer.  I have a lot of time for Harlech and would suggest that it be the first club one looks up for a game if you find yourself in the general vicinity.  Its good value at under £50 with an outstanding twilight rate of £30.  Don't listen to the no men.  Get out there and play Harlech when you make your Darwin pilgrimage to Aberdovey.  There is a lot to like and I promise the bunker will impress.  

Ciao
« Last Edit: January 15, 2010, 06:31:03 AM by Sean Arble » Logged

THE NEXT DOZEN: Brancaster, Silloth, Ganton, Berkshire Red, Pulborough, Sunningdale Old, Deal, Crystal Downs, Kingsley Club, Franklin Hills, Pasatiempo & Cypress Point
Mark Ferguson
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1762


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2008, 08:30:07 PM »

Sean,

An interesting look around Harlech, and you pointed out a few things about the course I had missed, but I can't believe you prefer it to Porthcawl. 

Aside from the last few holes, the rest of Harlech is so flat and uninteresting I suggest spending any money for improving the course go to hiring Catherine Zeta Jones to loll around in the bunkers.

Then it might have a fighting chance.  Last time I was there it was 25 quid for a round. 50 is ridiculous - are the Welsh assembly getting their economic policies from Robert Mugabe?

Logged
Joe Hancock
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4894



WWW
Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2008, 08:36:28 PM »

Sean,

Do you have any spare rooms? I'd likely only stay for 6 months or so..... Grin

Joe
Logged

Hi from CPC. 1st tee: WTF? 18th tee: WTF? Everything between: OMG! Luv it 4evr. Gud fud, 2. Later.

Dan Kelly, April 1, 2009 (Fittingly!)
Ken Moum
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1058


I'm striving to become a Brora sheep!


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2008, 09:05:19 PM »

Joe,

Maybe we can work out a timeshare. Six months for you and six for me and my wife.

Ken
Logged

Golf courses are becoming far to long. Twenty years ago we played three rounds of golf a day and considered we had taken an interminably long time if we took more than two hours to play a round. Today it not infrequently takes over three hours. --Alister MacKenzie
Tony_Muldoon
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2761



Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2008, 11:22:55 PM »

Thanks for sharing Sean, good to hear an appreciation of the course that balances the obvious charms of the finishing stretch with what comes prior.  With your respect for Princes and now Harlech I deduce that dunes as eye candy does not get an easier pass with you than solid links golf on flatter ground.   It will be interesting to follow people’s comments on Birkdale this summer, because if you took away the dunes that flank the holes then I suspect this is the kind of course you really have.
Logged

“Links golf. It's like a day at the beach and a great round of golf all at once. What's not to love?”    Brent Hutto 19 02 07.
Sean Arble
Sr. Member
****
Online Online

Posts: 6876


We're gonna take the suburbs to the stars.


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 07:46:57 AM »

Quote from: Mark Ferguson on March 30, 2008, 08:30:07 PM
Sean,

An interesting look around Harlech, and you pointed out a few things about the course I had missed, but I can't believe you prefer it to Porthcawl. 

Aside from the last few holes, the rest of Harlech is so flat and uninteresting I suggest spending any money for improving the course go to hiring Catherine Zeta Jones to loll around in the bunkers.

Then it might have a fighting chance.  Last time I was there it was 25 quid for a round. 50 is ridiculous - are the Welsh assembly getting their economic policies from Robert Mugabe?



Mark

Many of the holes are flat, but I think there is plenty of interest mainly due to the outstanding bunkering and some cool greens.  Porthcawl is more than likely a better course than Harlech, though I don't know either well enough to be certain.  However, for my money, I would take Harlech in a heartbeat.  Perhaps one day I will make it back to Porthcawl and get the opportunity to change my mind, but not at £95 for game. 

Tony

Princes generally has more movement than Harlech and it is a lovely course to be sure.  In many ways, Princes is the ideal golfing terrain that can accomodate golfers into old age. 

Joe & K(?)

As it so happens, we do have spare rooms.  My wife and I argue all the time about what to do with them.  I am guessing you can ascertain how things break down between husbands and wives.

Ciao

Logged

THE NEXT DOZEN: Brancaster, Silloth, Ganton, Berkshire Red, Pulborough, Sunningdale Old, Deal, Crystal Downs, Kingsley Club, Franklin Hills, Pasatiempo & Cypress Point
Phil McDade
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2594



Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 09:21:32 AM »

Sean:

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I stood inside the castle some 25 years ago, looking down on the featureless terrain below, and my buddy said, "That's a golf course!" We didn't play, but I was struck by how feature-less it looked from the turrets high above. Your photo essay reveals how sometimes aerial views of courses fail to reveal any of the subtlety on the ground. Neat bunkering!

Logged
Mark Chaplin
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1041


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2008, 09:36:00 AM »

Sean,

You mention the drainage whilst I have no knowledge I expect RStD isn't the wealthiest club in Wales, it isn't easy to get to and there is a lack of easily accessible good courses in the area for golf trips. I enjoyed my round there although it's only really the back nine that excites.

Chappers
Logged

Cave Nil Vino
Sean Arble
Sr. Member
****
Online Online

Posts: 6876


We're gonna take the suburbs to the stars.


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2008, 10:30:43 AM »

Quote from: Mark Chaplin on March 31, 2008, 09:36:00 AM
Sean,

You mention the drainage whilst I have no knowledge I expect RStD isn't the wealthiest club in Wales, it isn't easy to get to and there is a lack of easily accessible good courses in the area for golf trips. I enjoyed my round there although it's only really the back nine that excites.

Chappers

Chappers

You are essentially right.  Harlech is a steady dose of solid golf with a few holes which reach the heights of greatness.  It is a bit isolated, but I did once take the train from the Harlech GC direct to the Aberdovey GC for a game.  These two courses represent some very good affordable weekend golf.  We paid £110 for this past weekend which included golf, b&b in Cricketh (a small, but lovely little town with a wonderful castle) & dinner.   

Ciao
Logged

THE NEXT DOZEN: Brancaster, Silloth, Ganton, Berkshire Red, Pulborough, Sunningdale Old, Deal, Crystal Downs, Kingsley Club, Franklin Hills, Pasatiempo & Cypress Point
Joe Hancock
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4894



WWW
Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2008, 11:08:10 AM »

Sean,

I was just showing these pics to my wife, especially the nice one with the castle in the background. I said "Honey look at this" and she said "Oh yea...clover." She is the sick wife of a golf course superintendent and this proves it!

I'm so proud of her...... Grin

Joe
Logged

Hi from CPC. 1st tee: WTF? 18th tee: WTF? Everything between: OMG! Luv it 4evr. Gud fud, 2. Later.

Dan Kelly, April 1, 2009 (Fittingly!)
Paul Stephenson
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 324


I'm a llama!


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2008, 12:14:16 PM »

Nice pictures, and it looks like a very interesting course.

It's a shame some of the bunkers are flooded.  It looks like they did not stand up well to the "...winter torrents roaring."

Great.  Now I have Men of Harlech stuck in my head.
Logged
Tony_Muldoon
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2761



Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2008, 12:32:58 PM »

Quote from: Phil McDade on March 31, 2008, 09:21:32 AM
Sean:

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I stood inside the castle some 25 years ago, looking down on the featureless terrain below, and my buddy said, "That's a golf course!" We didn't play, but I was struck by how feature-less it looked from the turrets high above. Your photo essay reveals how sometimes aerial views of courses fail to reveal any of the subtlety on the ground. Neat bunkering!






« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 12:35:33 PM by Tony_Muldoon » Logged

“Links golf. It's like a day at the beach and a great round of golf all at once. What's not to love?”    Brent Hutto 19 02 07.
Guy Nicholson
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 170



WWW
Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 01:55:08 PM »

Quote from: Paul Stephenson on March 31, 2008, 12:14:16 PM
It's a shame some of the bunkers are flooded.  It looks like they did not stand up well to the "...winter torrents roaring."

Actually, what struck me is how dry the fairways look compared to the bunkers. It'll be July before things are that dry here in Ontario.
Logged
Paul Stephenson
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 324


I'm a llama!


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 07:50:27 PM »

Oh don't say that Guy.  I'm just excited that this rain seems to be finally melting the snow.  I'd forgotten that  I have a pool in my backyard.
Logged
Mark Hissey
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 109


I'm a llama!


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 08:08:52 PM »

I spent a fair amount of time in the dunes on the coast there. They are absolutely spectacular and would provide the bones for a number of wonderful courses. They'll never be developed though.
Logged
Sean Arble
Sr. Member
****
Online Online

Posts: 6876


We're gonna take the suburbs to the stars.


Re: HARLECH - Oh Happy Days
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 03:21:40 AM »

Quote from: Guy Nicholson on March 31, 2008, 01:55:08 PM
Quote from: Paul Stephenson on March 31, 2008, 12:14:16 PM
It's a shame some of the bunkers are flooded.  It looks like they did not stand up well to the "...winter torrents roaring."

Actually, what struck me is how dry the fairways look compared to the bunkers. It'll be July before things are that dry here in Ontario.

Guy

Harlech has a very high water table.  In the big scheme of things it wasn't all that long ago that water lapped the base of the cliff on which the castle stands.  I think the club has been instrumental in maintaining grass on the dunes to prevent sand blow on the course.  Pedestrians are kept to very good and bright white sea shell paths.  As you can see, by the end of the round the bunkers were clearing.  I would think the depth of the bunkering is limited because of the water table. 

Just down th road at Aberdovey they are having a dickens of a time with erosion at the far end of the course.  They have lost bits of the course in recent years.  The 12th, a lovely par 3 is currently under threat, I don't think it will last much longer.  The back tee for #13 is gone and I think they lost a green too.  Given these obvious harsh weather conditions, Harlech doesn't do too badly.


Ciao
Logged

THE NEXT DOZEN: Brancaster, Silloth, Ganton, Berkshire Red, Pulborough, Sunningdale Old, Deal, Crystal Downs, Kingsley Club, Franklin Hills, Pasatiempo & Cypress Point
Pages: [1]
Print
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.9 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC | Valid XHTML
Web Hosting by ConnectNC


Admin
Loading...