Boy, are they different

[Tommy Williamsen]

I just watched an old Shell's Wonderful World of Golf.  It was filmed if Puerto Rico.  Chi Chi Rodriguez, Gay Brewer, and Arnold Palmer were the players.  You could not pick three more different or interesting swings.  It is different today.  There may be some swing variations,  but with few exceptions they are pretty much the same.  So many of the old guys grew up in caddy shacks and were self taught  that the differences are much more pronounced. It was fun to watch.

[Jason Topp]

I generally agree, but it seems to me that today there is more variation in recent years: stack and tilt guys (baddelly), 1 plane guys , Ballard connected swings, don't go right swings (DiMarco) and more free spritited swings like Snedeker, Garcia and Ogilvy. 

[John Moore II]

Jason--In all reality, its not possible to swing on one plane, simply not possible...I don't care what Jim Hardy says. There are always 2 planes in a golf swing, the plane from the ball up the shaft and the plane from the ball up over the shoulders (i.e. Ben Hogan's book) There are always those 2 planes.
--People today have different swings though, Sergio, Furyk, Dimarco, Craig Parry, Daly. Those swings are as different as anything seen before. And in those cases, they are very markedly different.

[A.G._Crockett]

Jason--In all reality, its not possible to swing on one plane, simply not possible...I don't care what Jim Hardy says. There are always 2 planes in a golf swing, the plane from the ball up the shaft and the plane from the ball up over the shoulders (i.e. Ben Hogan's book) There are always those 2 planes.
--People today have different swings though, Sergio, Furyk, Dimarco, Craig Parry, Daly. Those swings are as different as anything seen before. And in those cases, they are very markedly different.

I could be wrong about the details of this, but...

Hardy's one-plane is about the arms and the spine angle, not the shaft of the club.  That is a common misunderstanding about what he is teaching.  Hardy's 2 plane swing (and he teaches both) is the spine more upright, and the arms swinging on a different plane from the spine.  Neither one really involves the shaft of the club, I believe.

In conjunction with this thread, there is a noticeable difference between the swing of a one-planer like Zach Johnson and a two-planer like Mickelson, and even a hybrid guy like Tiger, who is 2 plane with his driver and gets more and more one-plane as he goes through the bag.

[Tom Yost]

OT, but I saw a portion of that program and watched with interest because they said the course was the El Conquistador.   Interesting to me because I spent two years stationed at the Naval Station Roosevelt Roads in the mid 70's, just a few miles from the El Conquistador resort.  Although I never played it, we did a drive-by one time just to check it out.  A rugged hillside layout as I recall.


Tom

[Tommy Williamsen]

Jason--In all reality, its not possible to swing on one plane, simply not possible...I don't care what Jim Hardy says. There are always 2 planes in a golf swing, the plane from the ball up the shaft and the plane from the ball up over the shoulders (i.e. Ben Hogan's book) There are always those 2 planes.
--People today have different swings though, Sergio, Furyk, Dimarco, Craig Parry, Daly. Those swings are as different as anything seen before. And in those cases, they are very markedly different.

I agree that those guys have different swings, especially Furyk and Daly.  I think in the fifties and early sixties there were more "homemade" swings.  And watching those three really drove the ponjt home.

[Garland Bayley]

Too bad they hadn't made it a foursome with Doug Sanders.