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JSlonis

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New York State Open @ Bethpage
« on: July 29, 2002, 08:20:44 AM »
Just some info on the NY State Open at Bethpage Black:

The winning score was 71-71-75=219

Just for FUN and for our discussion group.... ;)

RICK HARTMAN finished tied for 2nd Place with:

74-69-78=221...which of course now leads to what JESPER would have shot  :o

...a 3 round total of 191, which averages 63.6 strokes per round!!

 ;D  Discuss amongst yourselves....HAHAHA
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JSlonis

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Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2002, 08:21:47 AM »
Sorry typo...

Winning score-  73-71-75=219
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john nash

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2002, 08:35:59 AM »
Rick Hartman - 221
= 73.67 strokes.
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Jeff_Lewis

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Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2002, 10:46:55 AM »
it was played as par 71, fyi, the way they should have played the open.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2002, 01:13:40 PM »
Jamie,

How did Jesper finish in the British Open ?

Were there any golfers who shot ten strokes per round higher than he did for the first two rounds (full field) ???
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2002, 01:43:54 PM »
Shivas,

Shame on you, a lawyer, and you didn't read the fine print.
Is that malpractice or shysterism ?

My contention was that Rick Hartman was better by five shots per round than the average player in the GAP Open, composed of 45 pros and 15 amateurs.

Hartman stated that Jesper was 10 shots per round better than he was in major competitions.

No one ever stated that Jesper was 10 or 15 shots per round better than his fellow PGA Tour players.

That, apparently is how lawyers attempt to present their case when they can't argue the facts.   ;D
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JSlonis

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Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2002, 02:03:04 PM »
Pat,

Although he is currently having his worst year on tour, Jesper is and has been my favorite player over the last 5-7 years.

I gave the scores for the NY Open just to have a little fun...

To answer your question...there was NOT a single player for the first two days that Jesper beat by 10 shots per round.

The last place player in the field finished +17 for the first two rounds, Jesper was +2.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2002, 02:06:01 PM »
Jamie,

I know you were having fun and so am I.   ;D

If Jesper can beat PGA Tour players by 7.5 shots per round,
I don't think there is any question that he can beat NON-PGA
TOUR players, including amateurs, by a much wider margin.
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JSlonis

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Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2002, 02:19:12 PM »
For the record, the last place player at the OPEN was...

Kiyoshi Miyazato (JPN)

Not exactly your average PGA Tour Pro ;), but I get the point!

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RICK HARTMANN

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2002, 05:50:46 PM »
PAT
  THIS IS RICK HARTMANN AND WHEN DID I SAY JESPER IS 10 SHOTS PER ROUND BETTER THEN ME IN A MAJOR ?  LET ME KNOW!!!!!!!!
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2002, 05:58:29 PM »
Rick,

If you're Rick, you'll remember !

What are the dates that we are next scheduled to see each other ?
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RICK HARTMANN

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2002, 06:16:31 PM »
PAT
  THE FESCUE. IS THERE NO TRUST ON THIS SITE?
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MikeClayton

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2002, 06:23:01 PM »
Hartmann
Finally you can speak for yourself.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2002, 08:18:14 PM »
Rick,

What are the dates, and where do we have dinner ?
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RICK HARTMANN

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2002, 08:30:11 PM »
CLAYT'S
 HOPE ALL IS WELL AND WAY CAN'T I GET SOME PICTURES OF YOUR COURSES ON YOUR SITE. WHATS UP WITH THAT?
RICK
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Hartmann
Finally you can speak for yourself.

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RICK HARTMANN

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2002, 08:39:11 PM »
PAT
 THE DATES ARE THE 13TH &14TH . I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING PARNEVIK CAN BEAT ME BY 10 A ROUND. BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR HIM TO GIVE ME 10 SHOTS A ROUND""' I'M LUCKY IF HE GIVES ME 1 A SIDE AND I TRY TO GET AS MANY AS I CAN. HE HAS A LOT OF CASH""""
RICK

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Rick,

What are the dates, and where do we have dinner ?
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: New York State Open @ Bethpage
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2002, 03:59:33 PM »
Shivas,

Do you consider the NY State Open to be a Major ?

I'll take the bet with a change in players.
At the time the statement was made, Parnevik was # 12 in the world and on the Ryder Cup team.  So I'll take the current player or players that fit that criteria versus the field of qualifying club pros.

Does missing the cut give me the bet, just like a blackjack player going over 21 ?

How about the good club pros that don't qualify ?
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