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George Pazin

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What is the difference (to each individual) between "Natural" and "Weathered"?

I think this thought from another thread deserves some discussion of its own.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

BCrosby

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George -

I'm not sure I understand the interest in the question.

Of all natural things out there, a sub-set of them are weathered.

For example, rocks are weathered, grass (if alive) is not. And so forth.

Perhaps I am missing some deeper meaning here.

Bob

Tom Huckaby

George - someone has to say it: you have been spending way too much time indoors.

It's just a game to be played.  That thread, this one, whoa... you REALLY need to hit some balls.
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tlavin

I'm weathered, but that's natural.

Joe Hancock

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I'll take the rocks and weathered thing another step. Sometimes in construction, we unearth a rock with unique character and choose to use it in the golf landscape. But, it isn't until it has weathered that it looks like a natural part of the landscape. It has to become seasoned, just like the other visible, natural surroundings.

Joe
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

George Pazin

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George -

I'm not sure I understand the interest in the question.

Of all natural things out there, a sub-set of them are weathered.

For example, rocks are weathered, grass (if alive) is not. And so forth.

Perhaps I am missing some deeper meaning here.

Bob

I guess what fascinates me about Jim question is that weathered is almost the perfect word to describe the difference between the appearance of UK courses and US courses.

Maybe it wasn't deserving of a separate thread, I guess. :)

Don discusses well the difference between a natural appearance and a natural hole quite well on the other thread.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

BCrosby

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My theory is that threads ought to be started on any pretext whatsoever, so no problem. ;)

Bob

JESII

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George,

I think it's a hell of a topic...sadly, I have missed a great majority of the conversation but am looking forward to jumping on the train this evening...I'll try to read as much of the thread as I can in hopes of catching up so as not to appear uninformed...











Here's my underlying thought...I think today's "Minimalist" golf course architects want their work to have a weathered appearance and are willing to do unnatural things to attain it...

Phil McDade

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George - someone has to say it: you have been spending way too much time indoors.

It's just a game to be played.  That thread, this one, whoa... you REALLY need to hit some balls.
 ;D





Easy for you to say, you San Jose-based (67 and partly cloudly today, I see..), 12-months-a-year golfer. ;)

I'd rather be hitting golf balls right now, too, but my local course is enduring the 90 inches of snow we've gotten this winter in the Great White North that is Wisconsin this year.

This time last year, I'd already played a round -- in January! In Wisconsin! -- and was gearing up for the early spring rounds. I'm not sure I'll see green before Memorial Day this year. (Dick Daley joins me in these thoughts, and he's several latitudes north of me...)

Interesting thread; I will say I've played some very old, rudimentary courses over in Scotland -- Dunaverty, near Machrihanish, comes to mind -- that have a distinctly natural and weathered look. Blackwolf Run here in Wisconsin looks natural, but hardly weathered.



Mike_Cirba



George,

I don't see much difference...she looks very natural to me, perhaps even too much so.

However, for my taste, I'd take Glenna Collett (left) any day (or night) of the week.