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Jason Topp

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Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« on: February 27, 2008, 09:16:42 AM »
I saw many balls headed for the desert that got caught up in the rough, particularly around the greens. 

I have played the course a couple of times and believe eliminating rough would have made for more interesting decisions off the tee and would have made the green surrounds more interesting than they already are.

Agree or disagree?

Dean Stokes

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Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 09:55:34 AM »
Agree. Anything that puts more emphasis on driving ability has to be good for the game. Especially now that the ball goes so far.
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Jerry Kluger

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Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 11:04:16 AM »
The problem with no rough is that it usually means there are no recovery shots - most balls in the desert wind up unplayable - maybe that is my problem with a desert course being using at all for a potentially very exciting event.

TEPaul

Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 11:06:11 AM »
I've never been to that course but I did notice a few greens did shed the ball off the green and down some slopes. Generally when that happened it seems like the ball was eventually stopped by rough before getting all the way to the desert floor. Are you saying the ball should have shed off those greens and eventually ended up on the desert floor?

Mark Pearce

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Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 11:54:43 AM »
The problem with no rough is that it usually means there are no recovery shots - most balls in the desert wind up unplayable - maybe that is my problem with a desert course being using at all for a potentially very exciting event.
Jerry,

Did you watch the Matchplay?  One of the highlights for me was the variety of recovery shots.  Nice to see recovery shots played fromsomething other than 5 inch deep rough.
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Jason Topp

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Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 12:14:46 PM »
I've never been to that course but I did notice a few greens did shed the ball off the green and down some slopes. Generally when that happened it seems like the ball was eventually stopped by rough before getting all the way to the desert floor. Are you saying the ball should have shed off those greens and eventually ended up on the desert floor?

I think it would have been more interesting for the following reasons:

1.  On some holes, missed approaches would have fed to the desert floor, making the choice of how agressive to be on the approach shot more difficult.  On other holes, the ball would have been fed further from the green and posed more interesting recovery decisions along the lines of Pinehurst No. 2.

2.  Tee to green - there was a substantial amount of relatively short rough tee to green.  The grass corridors are very wide.  Thus, the desert only came into play as a hazard if the player hit a very wild shot.

If that rough were fairway, I think players would have been tempted to take more agressive lines off the tee bringing the desert into play and posing some more interesting decisions.  Furthermore, eliminating rough would have put more emphasis on accuracy off the tee because there would be less of a safety net keeping the ball in play.


The problem with no rough is that it usually means there are no recovery shots - most balls in the desert wind up unplayable - maybe that is my problem with a desert course being using at all for a potentially very exciting event.



I think the desert is a far more interesting hazard than water and is closer to the rough on links courses, or chunked vegitation you find on sandbelt courses or the no mow areas at Sand Hills and many other courses.  I think it particularly works well when the playing corridors are wide like at the Gallery South.    

As long as you can take a swing at it, the desert offers many interesting recovery shots.  I know - I have tried them all.

Andy Troeger

Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 07:04:46 PM »
As long as you can take a swing at it, the desert offers many interesting recovery shots.  I know - I have tried them all.

Jason,
I agree with this premise, but not knowing how much desert golf you've played and how many courses you've seen (evidently at least some!), I've found getting a swing out of the desert is no given and on many course isn't even likely. Its pretty rare when I can go out to my ball and the desert and under the rules do any better than chop out (and that's if I get lucky). Depends on the course though, some are much more forgiving than others. I didn't watch the tournament much at the Gallery to see whether the pros would have had options in the desert there.

David Lott

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Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 07:12:23 PM »
It might have been better with rough.

The rough did not seem to post much of a problem.
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Michael Powers

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Re: Would the Match Play have been better with no rough?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 12:51:55 PM »
It would have made it more interesting.  Another thing that would have improved the event is eliminating some of the trees.  On one hole both Tiger and Cink bounced it off some trees right next to the desert, and they both ended up in the rough with clear shots to the green.  If there were no rough and few trees, they could clear the desert of much of the land hazards, then the fun would begin, rocks, weird sandy lies, rattle snakes, that's what im talkin about.
HP

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