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Belvedere GC, Charlevoix, MI
Tom MacWood:
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As I told you in private email, I think your digging and finding skills are much more evolved and valuble than your interpretive skills. It seems to me that your theories always rely on a lot of fantastic coincidences to be true, while I believe that the simplest explanation usually is the most correct.
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Jeff
I think my interpretive skills are pretty good too. Your ability to interpret is directly related to your overall knowledge and the amount of information you have available and I have a hell of lot information. The people complaining don't have the same information I have.
We've only scratched the surface of documenting golf architecture history, and because of that there are plenty of opportunities for new discoveries, and often those discoveries don't sit well with people. In the past when I've claimed Willie Campbell laid out Myopia or Flynn did not design Heartwellville or Crump killed himself or Watson is responsible for White Bear or Old Tom Morris's design accomplishments are exaggerated or Barker was one of the premier architects or some other idea that goes against our general understanding, thats often when you would hear the complaints he is good at research, but not interpreting it. I think record shows my research and interpretations are mostly on the mark, not always, but most of the time.
Jeff_Brauer:
Tom,
If nothing else, these articles show that many important clubs ended up consulting many different people! Apparently, not many of them really trusted the then young field of gca. Riv had Watson, Bell and Thomas according to that writer? That is not unlike the MCC story, where different people called in Barker, Whigham, and their own committee.
I am not sure what any of that means, but one of the tenants of the MCC discussion is to understand it in context of the times. I am not sure any of us do that very well.
BTW, it would appear to me that in this case, laid out meant to design, no?
JC Jones:
I too am curious as to what "laid out" means. If it means design, then what purpose does Ross or Thomas or others serve when they come in after the design.
Yancey_Beamer:
Belvedere was for me a most enjoyable Sunday afternoon.Simplicity and FUN.A almost forgotton element of design.
Chris_Blakely:
I have played both of Watson's Michigan courses Belvedere GC and Charlevoix GC and enjoyed both of them. As I stated on a previous thread about White Bear Yacht Club, the course looked a lot different than any of the other Ross courses I have played.
Chris
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