Paul,
That is what I was getting at. Part of the reason that I love them both too.
When I build my golf course, small interesting greens are the major demand I will have.
Matt,
I understand your point, and do not disagree.
I just do not fully buy that you need large greens in windy conditions, there are plenty of examples in the UK of this.
Still, I understand you, but I think that as much as it is tough in windy conditions, the small greensite makes that such a wonderful hole. One of the best par fours around!
Mr. Benham,
If there was a designer that built the 8th at Pebble today, I would get on a plane tomorrow to see it. I do not think that hole is even slightly gimmicky.