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John Kavanaugh

Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« on: December 19, 2007, 09:07:56 AM »
I have noticed, and enjoyed, a common theme of Yiddish being used in most architectural reviews and writings.  It does spice up what can be a boring subject.  What are examples of proper Yiddish use in architecture.  What are examples that might be interesting to use in a more common manner.  And perhaps more importantly, what are guidlines for goyishe people that find it to be a beautiful language and would like to use words without coming off offensive.

A link to a dictionary: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Yiddish_Words/yiddish_words.html#M

Brad Klein

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2007, 09:11:02 AM »
As a purely hypothetical example, the golfer asking this question is a "putz" or "shmuck."

Would that be what you're looking for?


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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 09:14:28 AM »
We have all played "drek" courses.
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Eric Olsen

Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2007, 09:22:01 AM »
This design is pure mishegas!  

Adam Clayman

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2007, 09:28:15 AM »
J.B. - You will find this intereting...The proper definition of "schmuck" is someone who gets out of the shower to pee.
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JMEvensky

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2007, 09:29:07 AM »
This discussion could start a lot of mishagoss,especially if anyone starts thinking/acting like a goyishe kup.

Adam Clayman

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2007, 09:31:25 AM »
How about those Michiganers?
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JMEvensky

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2007, 09:31:54 AM »
This design is pure mishegas!  

I can't believe someone named Olsen beat me to this one ;D

Eric Olsen

Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2007, 09:33:58 AM »
One potential rule of thumb is to be designated as a mensch before commencing to raise such a potentially sensitive topic.  When I return home tonight, I will consult my Jewish Book of Why, Volume I and II, and my Encyclopedia of Jewish Concepts, both of which were required reading by my orthodox Mother-In-Law, to see if they offer any insight into this matter.

John Kavanaugh

Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2007, 09:41:05 AM »
As a purely hypothetical example, the golfer asking this question is a "putz" or "shmuck."

Would that be what you're looking for?




I have been called both those in the past.  I think smoiger might be more appropriate in an architectural forum.

Jim Sweeney

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2007, 09:50:30 AM »
Adam,

What is the word for someone who does not get out of the shower to pee?

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JMEvensky

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2007, 09:54:54 AM »
One potential rule of thumb is to be designated as a mensch before commencing to raise such a potentially sensitive topic.  When I return home tonight, I will consult my Jewish Book of Why, Volume I and II, and my Encyclopedia of Jewish Concepts, both of which were required reading by my orthodox Mother-In-Law, to see if they offer any insight into this matter.
Mr. Olsen,you are indeed a tzadik .

Eric Olsen

Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2007, 10:01:50 AM »
One potential rule of thumb is to be designated as a mensch before commencing to raise such a potentially sensitive topic.  When I return home tonight, I will consult my Jewish Book of Why, Volume I and II, and my Encyclopedia of Jewish Concepts, both of which were required reading by my orthodox Mother-In-Law, to see if they offer any insight into this matter.
Mr. Olsen,you are indeed a tzadik .

Thank you.  I wonder if you would continue to share that view if you read my draft essay entitled "A Goy's Guide to Bar Mitzvahs", having attended literally dozens...

JMEvensky

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2007, 10:16:12 AM »
I always enjoy playing Bar Mitzvah tour guide to non-MOT's.They really get excited when I tell them about the ritualistic sacrifices and blood drinking.The visitor circumcision requirement tends to make them nervous,though.

Michael J. Moss

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2007, 10:17:24 AM »
I have heard the USGA's Competition Commitee will be dropping all references to the "primary rough," in favor of the lesser known but more charmingly descriptive Yiddish noun: "schmutz."  ;D

Bill_McBride

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2007, 11:00:43 AM »
One potential rule of thumb is to be designated as a mensch before commencing to raise such a potentially sensitive topic.  When I return home tonight, I will consult my Jewish Book of Why, Volume I and II, and my Encyclopedia of Jewish Concepts, both of which were required reading by my orthodox Mother-In-Law, to see if they offer any insight into this matter.
Mr. Olsen,you are indeed a tzadik .

Thank you.  I wonder if you would continue to share that view if you read my draft essay entitled "A Goy's Guide to Bar Mitzvahs", having attended literally dozens...

There is almost nothing more fun than a bar or bas mitzvah.  At the last one we attended, I somehow wound up in a chair hoist up high by a few of the celebrants.  This happened rather late in the festivities.  ;D

Adam Clayman

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2007, 11:34:56 AM »
Michael, For the US`Open, would it be schmutz gabi? A schmottie term.

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Bob_Huntley

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2007, 11:56:14 AM »
Adam,

What is the word for someone who does not get out of the shower to pee?



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Bryan Izatt

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2007, 12:01:38 PM »
Course restorations drive many on here meshuggeneh.

Evan Fleisher

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Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2007, 08:27:59 AM »
Oy vey...  :P
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Proper use of Yiddish in architectural writings
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2007, 08:38:17 AM »
I often find when playing alone on a cold winter day I near strategic kavanah within the architecture.

http://www.yastrow.com/ideas/what_ideas_kavanah.html

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