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Garland Bayley

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« on: November 30, 2007, 07:15:57 PM »
Was "Which modern GCA said this?"

Those who have played Chambers Bay please allow others to answer.

Who said the following?

"We try to let the most prominent features of the property become the "signature" for the course."

Tom Doak said in in response to a question for an article in Pacific Northwest Golfer. The full article is at
http://www.thepnga.org/PNGAMedia_Stories/earth_tones.asp

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Joe Hancock

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Re:Who said this?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 07:24:19 PM »
I have no idea.
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Who said this?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 07:26:57 PM »
Joe,

None of the above.
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Dan Kelly

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Re:Who said this?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 09:00:00 PM »
I have no idea.
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2007, 11:38:56 PM »
No Dan, not Jordan.

The Chambers  Bay reference is a bit of a misnomer. I used it to try to eliminate PNW members that have a better chance of knowing the answer.
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David Stamm

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2007, 11:44:57 PM »
Harbottle?
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 11:48:38 PM »
Not Harbottle.
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Adam Clayman

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2007, 12:08:48 AM »
Graves?
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2007, 12:11:42 AM »
Not Graves.

Although he has done courses far and wide, he has done some of his best work in the PNW.
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2007, 06:43:26 PM »
His work has made it into the top 100 public access courses in the US.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2007, 06:52:33 PM »
Mike Strantz?
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2007, 06:56:00 PM »
Nope, not Strantz. The quote is very recent.
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Sean Leary

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2007, 06:57:10 PM »
Garland,

Just curious as to what you are trying to get at here? (Yes I know the answer).
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2007, 07:03:23 PM »
I think it was interesting the particular architect found a way to use the word which he usually avoids. I suppose with that hint, it will be guessed real soon now.
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Bill Brightly

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2007, 07:23:17 PM »
Jack Nicklaus
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Joe Hancock

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2007, 07:25:04 PM »
T** D***.........
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Gary Daughters

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2007, 07:38:00 PM »
D***** T****
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2007, 07:42:06 PM »
It could have been me ... I've done a lot of interviews lately and can't begin to remember them all.  And I'm often asked about "signature" holes or features so I sometimes have to address that term.
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Bill Brightly

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2007, 07:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on December 01, 2007, 07:42:06 PM
It could have been me ...

Nah, can't be you TD. That would be too easy of a question! Although I did read your website to see if it was in your "philosphy" section.  (It's not.)
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Adam Clayman

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2007, 07:54:29 PM »
If it isn't TD, How about BC. Bill Coore?

Wait, Could it be MD?
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2007, 08:06:34 PM »
I don't know who it is, but, after listening to his video interview at Archerfield's website, I do know that TD hasn't lost his Ct. accent.  ;D
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2007, 08:13:15 PM »
Jim K:

Really?  You think I've got a Connecticut accent?

I'm surprised because my parents were both from Missouri so I never thought I had a particularly eastern accent.  And God knows I've moved around a lot since.

When I lived in Scotland they did think I had a nice "American accent".
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2007, 08:38:08 PM »
Tom,
Yes, I think you do. When you have 25 cents in your pocket, do you call it a quar-ter, or a kwa-ter(Ct.), and you had a little d in your th. The g drops are more Missouri than Ct.
 

 
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2007, 08:40:52 PM »
Hmmm ... I definitely thought I always say "quarter", but perhaps not once I get a couple of pints in me.  :)
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re:Which modern GCA said this?
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2007, 08:45:20 PM »
Well, don't blame me too badly if you have to think before saying quarter from now on.
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