Best "team" for each state

[Brian Cenci]

With it being Thanksgiving and football it got me thinking if you compiled the best "team" from each state who would win (as far as golf courses are concerned).

QB-Crystal Downs
RB-Oakland Hills
FB-Franklin Hills
WR-Arcadia Bluffs
WR-Lost Dunes
TE-Greywalls
LT-Dunes Club
RT-Forest Dunes
C-Kingsley Club
LG-Tullymore
RG-Eagle Eye
K-Bay Harbor
P-Indianwood (Old)
KR-Lakewood Shores (Gailes)
PR-Wuskowhan Players Club


Find me another state with a better "team"

[Adam Clayman]

This is where California can win.
PB
CPC
Pasa
Riviera
LACC
MPCC
MPCC
SFGC
Cal Club
Valley Club

Annandale
Wilshire
Barona
Rustic
Ojai
Spyglass
Bel Air
The Institute
The Preserve
Stone Eagle

Our kicker is PG. Bay Harbor?

[Bill Brightly]

Not so fast, California.

New Jersey's team


QB Pine Valley (#1 in the World)
RB Baltustrol
RB  Plainfield
WR Hollywood
WR  Mountain Ridge
TE  Somerset Hills
LT  Bayonne
RT  Trump National
LG  Manasquan River
RG  Galloway
C   Metedeconk
P    Ridgewood
KR  Seaview Bay Course
PR  Essex County
K  Canoe Brook
Subs

Montclair
Morris County
Ballyowen
Hackensack
Atlantic City

[David Stamm]

Sorry Bill, while the NJ team is very good, the Cal team comes out on top for me.

[Brad Tufts]

Is MA better than one would think?

TCC (Composite)
Salem
Kittansett
Essex
Myopia
Brae Burn
Charles River
Taconic
Worcester CC
Old Sandwich
Boston GC
Red Tail
Oyster Harbors
The Orchards
Sankaty Head

K: Eastward Ho!

Subs:
Dedham CC + Polo, Berkshire Hills, CC of Pittsfield, Tedesco, Vesper, New Seabury-Blue, Nantucket GC, Farm Neck, International-Oaks, Woodland

[wsmorrison]

Here are 22 from PA to consider (offensive and defensive starters)

Merion GC (East)
Oakmont CC
Huntingdon Valley CC
Lancaster CC
Rolling Green GC
Philadelphia CC
Aronimink CC
Laurel Valley
Saucon Valley CC (Grace)
Lehigh CC
Stonewall GC (Old)
Fox Chapel GC
Sunnehanna CC
Rolling Rock GC
Pittsburgh Field Club
Philadelphia Cricket Club
Bedford Springs GC
Moselem Springs CC
Applebrook GC
LuLu CC
Manufacturers GCC
Eagles Mere CC

By the way, we recognize the borough of Pine Valley as part of Pennsylvania.  It just happens to be surrounded by New Jersey.  

[Bart Bradley]

I think North Carolina could be in the mix...

QB --Pinehurst #2
RB --Wade Hampton
RB--Grandfather Golf and Country Club
WR--Tobacco Road
WR --Diamond Creek
TE--CCNC
LT--Old Linville Golf Course
RT--Tigers Eye
LG--Eagle Point
RG--Old North St
C --Old Chatham
P-- Pinehurst #4
K--Quail Hollow
KR--Charlotte CC
PR--Club at Longview

lots and lots of subs...The truth is, my list for NC probably doesn't even fully do it justice....Pretty good for a small state...

Bart

[Bill Brightly]

Sorry Bill, while the NJ team is very good, the Cal team comes out oton top for me.

Maybe, haven't played enough of the CA courses to counter.

But change it to an All Metro NYC team, and we get to include Winged Foot, Westchester, Quaker Ridge, National, Shinnecock, Stanwich, CC of Fairfield, Hudson National, Garden City, etc, then everyone else is playing for second.

The PA team is very strong , too!

[Sean_A]

I think North Carolina could be in the mix...

QB --Pinehurst #2
RB --Wade Hampton
RB--Grandfather Golf and Country Club
WR--Tobacco Road
WR --Diamond Creek
TE--CCNC
LT--Old Linville Golf Course
RT--Tigers Eye
LG--Eagle Point
RG--Old North St
C --Old Chatham
P-- Pinehurst #4
K--Quail Hollow
KR--Charlotte CC
PR--Club at Longview

lots and lots of subs...The truth is, my list for NC probably doesn't even fully do it justice....Pretty good for a small state...

Bart

Bart

How does Old Town not make the grade for North Carolina?  I vote Old Town as a wide receiver.  So wide that nobody in the bloody state received the email saying how good it is!

Ciao

[Mitch St. Peter]

I'm curious how the Institute or Annandale makes it above Olympic on the California team but maybe i'm just a homer.

California is my vote.

[Bill Brightly]

New York's Team

QB National Golf Links
WR Winged Foot
WR Shinnecock Hills
RB Oak Hill
FB Westchester
LT Garden City
RT Fishers Island
RG Hudson National
LG Maidstone
C Metropolis
PR Fenway
KR Creek Club
P  Sleepy Hollow
K Wykagil

Subs

NY Revised 11/26/07

 New York's Team

QB National Golf Links
WR Winged Foot
WR Shinnecock Hills
RB Oak Hill
FB Westchester
LT Bethpage Black
RT Fishers Island
RG Hudson National
LG Maidstone
C Garden City
PR Sabonec
KR Creek Club
P  Sleepy Hollow
K Quaker Ridge

[Adam Clayman]

Mitch, It simple. A complete oversight. Thanx.

[Bart Bradley]

I think North Carolina could be in the mix...

QB --Pinehurst #2
RB --Wade Hampton
RB--Grandfather Golf and Country Club
WR--Tobacco Road
WR --Diamond Creek
TE--CCNC
LT--Old Linville Golf Course
RT--Tigers Eye
LG--Eagle Point
RG--Old North St
C --Old Chatham
P-- Pinehurst #4
K--Quail Hollow
KR--Charlotte CC
PR--Club at Longview

lots and lots of subs...The truth is, my list for NC probably doesn't even fully do it justice....Pretty good for a small state...

Bart

Bart

How does Old Town not make the grade for North Carolina?  I vote Old Town as a wide receiver.  So wide that nobody in the bloody state received the email saying how good it is!

Ciao

Sean..read the last sentence of my post ..I told you I probably didn't do NC justice...I did my best but if Old Town should be a wide out, let it be so.

Bart

[Brian Laurent]

Ohio would be competitive:

QB - Inverness
RB - Muirfield Village
FB - Scioto
WR - Camargo
WR - The Golf Club
TE - OSU Scarlet
LT - Double Eagle
LG - Brookside (Canton)
C - Firestone
RG - NCR
RT - Canterbury
P - Sand Ridge
K - Columbus CC
KR - Pinnacle
PR - Tartan Fields

There are some pretty solid bench warmers as well!

[jim_lewis]

Bart:

I live in NC and have played every course on your list. I regret to say that NC is not in the same league with NY, NJ, Ohio, PA, MA or CA.  Even SC is probably better. Besides, you list fails to include several of the better courses in NC, Pine Needles, Mid Pines, both Forest Creek courses, Brights Creek and Hasentree come to mind.)

Jim Lewis

[Jim Nugent]

Bill Brightly, can't you add Bethpage Black, Winged Foot East, Quaker Ridge, Piping Rock, Engineers and Sebonack to your NY team?

I'd say California plays NY in the Super Bowl.  

[Tony Petersen]

Let us not forget about the great state of 10,000 lakes. Minnesota brings the Big 10 into the rumble;)

QB-Interlochen CC
WR-White Bear Yacht Club
WR-Minikahda CC
RB-Hazeltine National
FB-Somerset Golf Club
TE-Northland CC
LT-The Quarry
RT-Wilderness at Fortune Bay
C-Golden Valley G & CC
LG-Minneapolis Golf Club
RG-Spring Hill
K-Windsong Farms
P-Wayzata CC
KR-North Oaks Golf Club
PR-Deacon's Lodge

subs: Alexandria Golf Club, The Classic at Maddens, Town & Country Club, Edina CC, Rochester G & CC, Dakotah Ridge.

[Tony Petersen]

Arizona get down & dirty in the desert

QB-Outlaw at Desert Mountain
WR-Whisper Rock (Lower)
WR-Chiricahua at Desert Mountain
RB-Desert Forest
FB-Geronimo at Desert Mountain
TE-Forest Highlands (Canyons)
LT-Mirabel
RT-Troon CC
C-Silver Leaf
LG-Talking Rock
RG-Blackstone
K-Talking Stick (North)
P-Papago
KR-Whisper Rock (Upper)
PR-TPC Stadium

subs: Phoenix CC, Paradise Valley CC, Vista Verde, Renegade at Desert Mountain, Moon Valley CC, Southern Dunes, Pine Canyon.

[hhuffines]

Bart,

Another vote for the Old North State!

Hey Jim,

You been up here to Hasentree?  How about telling us local guys about it.

Thanks!

Hart

[wsmorrison]

Brian L,

Don't you have to include The Country Club in Pepper Pike on your list?  That is a fantastic golf course and club.  Geez, if that can't break into the starting lineup, that's something to consider.

I don't think any state can touch NY for overall depth.  Some of that is due to the large geographical area but there are a lot of great and solid courses in that state.  Friar's Head and Creek Club weren't even mentioned yet (I don't think).  However, many of the solid courses tend to be overrated in my opinion.  An objective course by course analysis would find a lot of the Philadelphia/Pennsylvania area courses surprising finishers against the better known NYC/NY contingent, even though they have my number one course in the world in their fold.

[Rich Goodale]

Scotland

Goalie--Cruden Bay (all goalies are--at the minimum--slightly nuts)
Central Defenders--Carnoustie and Royal Troon (try to juke your way past those two tough old bastards)
Left Back--The Old Course (dependable and still sprightly after all these years)
Right Back--Muirfield (impeccably able to counter anything coming down the opponent's left wing)
Defending/Holding Mid-Fielders--Prestwick and Turnberry (one grizzled Keano type veteran and one highly talented young punk)
Attacking Midfielders--Royal Dornoch and Kingsbarns (both able to go end to end, with sublimate skill)
Strikers--Loch Lomond and North Berwick (one phenom that's great in the air, one middle-aged veteran poacher with a nose for the goal)

Manager--Gleneagles (a once good but not great player who exudes self-confidence, vision and respect)

[David_Madison]

I live in NC as well. Sorry, but Jim Lewis is right. We don't match up. A number of the courses on Bart Bradley's list wouldn't make the all-girl's team in New York, PA, CA, or NJ. Old Chatham isn't even an interesting course by Rees Jones standards. But you have to include Old Town in one of the skill positions, I think as the small but quick running back and kick returner.

[Jim Nugent]

Rich -- Scotland and Ireland finally kick the butts of France, Italy, Argentina, Germany and Brazil.  

[Rich Goodale]

Yo Jim

Scotland actually did kick France's butt and would have kicked Italy's butt too (or at least drawn) if UEFA hand't chosen Manuel the Waiter to referee last week's game at Hampden...

Rich

[Brian Laurent]

Brian L,

Don't you have to include The Country Club in Pepper Pike on your list?  That is a fantastic golf course and club.  Geez, if that can't break into the starting lineup, that's something to consider.

I don't think any state can touch NY for overall depth.  Some of that is due to the large geographical area but there are a lot of great and solid courses in that state.  Friar's Head and Creek Club weren't even mentioned yet (I don't think).  However, many of the solid courses tend to be overrated in my opinion.  An objective course by course analysis would find a lot of the Philadelphia/Pennsylvania area courses surprising finishers against the better known NYC/NY contingent, even though they have my number one course in the world in their fold.

Wayne-

I have not played, nor do I know many that have played The Country Club...so I didn't want to throw it on there from a rankings list.  I'm sure I missed a few others that belong on the list as well.