[Rich Goodale]

Rich,
Does any golfer without a + handicap stand a chance in any USGA championship? Lightning could strike Walter Mitty squarely on the noggin though, and that keeps registration full.

 

Of course not, Jim, but that's why they should open up every qualifying event to every player, and get rid of the Publinx.  Maybe they'd need an extra pre-local to weed out the real hackers, but these things cost nothing to the USGA, particularly compared to their annual budget.  If they really want to bring the game to the people, this is it!

And, maybe, every few years, there will be a Walter Mitty who makes it through the pre-Local and the Local and the Sectional and maybe even takes one of those insurance salesmen and/or flat-bellies to the 19th.  Vie la difference!

[Rich Goodale]

It would be great to have a national championship for guys who actually worked for a living and thus have to squeeze in their golf when they can... in fact I'd also like a flight for those with kids under 15 years old, and separate flights for multiple kids under 12... and a separate flight for those with teenagers and babies at the same time....

Then I might kick some ass!

I too think the US Am and MidAm as currently constructed have little relevance to the common amateur golfer.  But then again, the common amateur golfer perhaps isn't SUPPOSED to have a fighting chance in those - they are events for the elite.

TH

Huc

When that comes, I'm gunning for you in the "Two Kids Under 15" flight, but if you wan't to meet me in the "Two kids Under 12" flight, well that's just a Bridge Too Far......

[Tom Huckaby]

Heck Rich, I'd get slaughtered in either of those.  But I am liking my chances in the "at least 8 years separation between age of kids, one has to be teenager, one less than 2".  Come next April I qualify... and I am gunning for bear.

 

[Jim_Kennedy]

Rich,
Your missing the appeal of the Publinx.
Why eliminate an event that is so well subscribed?

[Rich Goodale]

OK, Jim, keep the Publinx (although popularity is not always an indicator of goodness--see the "Ted Robinson" thread....) , but expand the others to make them more inclusive, as in my post above.

Maybe you could spice up the Publinx by making it a "No Dress Code" event.  Something like the Caddie's tournament day in CaddyShack...........

[Rich Goodale]

Huck

Since you are a Catholic and I have a vasectomy, all bets on future sprog qualification categories are off!

[Tom Huckaby]

Huck

Since you are a Catholic and I have a vasectomy, all bets on future sprog qualification categories are off!

Rich:  I am that, and have had that procedure.  But I also had the latter only after our little miracle came in August 2006.  

In any case the goal here was to get you the hell out of my flight so I have a fighting chance!

 

[Tony_Muldoon]

What have the Romans ever done for us?
Monty Python - Life of Brian


Reg: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.

Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.

Reg: Yeah.

Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

Reg: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?
(he pauses smugly)

Xerxes: The aqueduct?

Reg: What?

Xerxes: The aqueduct.

Reg: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

Masked commando #1: And the sanitation.

Stan: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?

Reg: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.

Matthias: And the roads.

Reg: Well, yes, obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads...

Masked commando #2: Irrigation.

Xerxes: Medicine.

Masked commando #3: Education.

General audience: Ohh...

Reg: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

Masked commando #1: And the wine!

General audience: Oh, yes! True!

Francis: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss if the Romans left, Reg.

Masked commando #4: Public baths!

Stan: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.

Francis: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order...
(general nodding)

Francis: Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this...
(more general murmurs of agreement)

Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Xerxes: Brought peace!

Reg: What!? Oh. Peace? Shut up!

[Mark Smolens]

Wait one minute.  Club and ball testing?  Where's the results of this big test that they've done that "proves" that the modern ball's distance isn't a problem.

I'm sorry, but the USGA may have done some good things -- many of which are posted in this thread, but they've (along with the R & A) lost in their ultimate mission, to protect the very nature of the game.  This site is about gca, and tho I'm no architect I think that I truly enjoy playing on golf courses that fall within what (it seems from what I see here) qualify as great "designs."  For me, one of the greatest things about the game is that I can play on the same fields as the best players in the world, and hit shots that often resemble theirs.  Because of equipment and technological advances, occurring on these "governing" bodies' respective watch, that is no longer true.  And when a course like Merion becomes the site for a national open, it will be so tricked up with 6" rough and 15' foot fairways as not to resemble the greatest in "design" that it was meant to be. . .

[Tom Huckaby]

Tony:  SPLITTER!  You have to REALLY hate the Romans to join the People's Front of Judea.

Thank you VERY much for the reminder about a movie I crack up every time I think about.

But you make a very good subtle point too...

TH

[Rich Goodale]

Huck

As we were discussing child bearing, I was thinking of "The Meaning of Life," and as I look at myself in the mirror, all I can think is  "Just one more wafer thin mint?".................

BTW, the fact that god seems to have reversed your vasectomy says something for the power of the lack of faith.

[Tom Huckaby]

It's wafer thin.......

And no, it wasn't THAT much of a miracle.  But great point.

 

[Kirk Gill]

When that comes, I'm gunning for you in the "Two Kids Under 15" flight, but if you wan't to meet me in the "Two kids Under 12" flight, well that's just a Bridge Too Far......

The sad truth is I don't know that I could successfully compete in the "Four kids under 10, fat, balding, tech-guy, gca aficianado" flight. But dagnabbit, I'd play !

[Tom Huckaby]

That's the spirit, Kirk!  I too have no real delusions of grandeur, but still it would be fun to go against my true peers.

 

[Dan King]

I'm a bit surprised nobody has mentioned it yet, but I love their Golf Journal. I look forward to receiving each new issue. Though, there seems to be some trouble with the mail lately, it has been a long time since my last issue.

Cheers,
Dan King

I have always imagined that paradise will be a kind of library.
 —Jorge Luis Borges

[Dan Kelly]

I am that, and have had that procedure.

What is the Vatican's position on "that procedure"?

[Rich Goodale]

Dan K I

How could I forget "Golf Journal?!"  Add that to my list of what the USGA does right, but I too take marks off them for slow delivery.  Over here in Scotland I'm still waiting for the February 1998 issue....

Dan K II

I will never forget "that procedure" and the Vatican had nothing to do with it, at least in my case.....

[Tom Huckaby]

I am that, and have had that procedure.

What is the Vatican's position on "that procedure"?

I am not sure what this says about me as a Catholic, but I honestly have no idea.  

[Jim_Kennedy]

"I am not sure what this says about me as a Catholic, but I honestly have no idea."-Huck

It says you don't want your friends nicknaming you Monk.  

[Dan Kelly]

I am that, and have had that procedure.

What is the Vatican's position on "that procedure"?

I am not sure what this says about me as a Catholic, but I honestly have no idea.  

I've just had a vision:

Msgr. Guido Sarducci, on the piazza outside St. Peter's, with microphone in hand, asking all of the pilgrims: "What is the Vatican's position on vasectomies?"

Rihc --

You'll always be Rihc I to me.

DK II

[Kalen Braley]

Here you go Huck...your going to burn for this one:  

Direct sterilization means that the purpose of the procedure was simply to destroy the normal functioning of a healthy organ so as to prevent the future conception of children. The most effective and least dangerous method of permanent sterilization is through vasectomy for a man and ligation of the fallopian tubes for a woman. Such direct sterilization is an act of mutilation and is therefore considered morally wrong. Regarding unlawful ways of regulating births, Pope Paul VI in his encyclical "Humanae Vitae" (1968) asserted, "Equally to be condemned ... is direct sterilization, whether of the man or of the woman, whether permanent or temporary" (no. 14). The Catechism also states, "Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law" (no. 2297).

Indirect sterilization is morally permissible. Here surgery, or drug or radiation therapy, is not intended to destroy the functioning of a healthy organ or to prevent the conception of children. Rather, the direct intention is to remove or to combat a diseased organ; unfortunately, the surgery or therapy may "indirectly" result in the person being sterilized. For instance, if a woman is diagnosed with a cancerous uterus, the performance of a hysterectomy is perfectly legitimate and moral. The direct effect is to remove the diseased organ and preserve the health of the woman’s body; the indirect effect is that she will be rendered sterile and never be able to bear children again. The same would be true if one of a woman’s ovaries or if one of a man’s testes were cancerous or functioning in a way that is harmful to overall bodily well-being. The caution in this discussion to uphold the morality is that the operation is truly therapeutic in character and arises from a real pathological need.


I suppose if you did it on accident, then all is well right?  

[Tom Huckaby]

Well I'll be damned, quite literally.

And so will at least 25 of my SCU buddies, and my father, and my brother, and my brother in law, and damn near every Catholic friend with kids that I have....

Interesting.

TH

[Kalen Braley]

Hey Huck,

When life gives you gristle, Don't grumble, give a whistle.  If there is a hell, I'll see you there...  

[Chuck Brown]

The "February 1998 issue of Golf Journal" will be the last one you get, since they discontinued it.  (One of the things they "used to do" right.)

But back on topic, I am glad someone mentioned the Green Section.  The GCSA seems to be gaining in authority, but the USGA Green Section has surely been one of the useful things happening out of Far Hills.

[Phil_the_Author]

Guys, how about a little repsect for a serious topic and take the religious discussion elsewhere...

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