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Quote from: Sean Arble on February 14, 2008, 09:51:34 AMPatI am not sure of what the "playing field" is. Have someone who understands what it is explain it to you.[/color]Is this some sort of generic course that exists in your mind ?It's not generic, it's easily identifiable on every golf course.Have someone who understands the concept explain or point it out to you.[/color] Length can be a big change for course. Not in the context of keeping the course "current" in light of increased distance vis a vis hi-tech equipment. The great majority of courses lag well behind the curve.[/color]Additionally, details of many courses have been altered over the years in an effort to be more challenging. Really.So, it's your contention that courses have been architecturally beefed up to make them more challenging ? That they've added bunkers and water hazards ? That they've put more slope and contour into the putting surfaces ? And in general have made the architectural features more difficult ? That's a novel theory, one not proven by the facts.[/color]You of all people should accept that a great many courses have been altered over the years because you are forever railing on about it. Don't be vague or nondiscriptive, what courses ?Be specific.My complaint isn't that courses have been altered to make them more challenging. So, I don't know where you concocted that erroneous idea.[/color]Jeepers, loads of courses would change even if man didn't design the changes. Would you tell me how NGLA, Shinnecock, GCGC and TOC would change if man didn't change them ?[/color] So far, you have not shown any evidence which directly links the increased popularity of golf at the expense of architecture. You made a few proclaimations and expected (presumably) your audience to accept them. Turn over some credible evidence and I will give your question more consideration, or is this a rhetorical question ?Only someone with limited or non-existent powers of observation could make a remark like the one above.Credible evidence ?What do you call the removal of bunkers ?What do you call the softening of bunkers ?What do you call the removal of slope in the putting surface ?What do you call the removal of contour in the putting surface ?What do you call the building of five and six sets of tees ?What do you call the creation of buffers of rough between fairway and bunkers ?What do you call the creation of buffers of rough between the fairway and water hazards ?What do you call the removal of pronounced earthen features ?What do you call the softening of prounounced earthen features ? You'd have to be obtuse, at best, not to see the trend.[/color]
PatI am not sure of what the "playing field" is. Have someone who understands what it is explain it to you.[/color]Is this some sort of generic course that exists in your mind ?It's not generic, it's easily identifiable on every golf course.Have someone who understands the concept explain or point it out to you.[/color] Length can be a big change for course. Not in the context of keeping the course "current" in light of increased distance vis a vis hi-tech equipment. The great majority of courses lag well behind the curve.[/color]Additionally, details of many courses have been altered over the years in an effort to be more challenging. Really.So, it's your contention that courses have been architecturally beefed up to make them more challenging ? That they've added bunkers and water hazards ? That they've put more slope and contour into the putting surfaces ? And in general have made the architectural features more difficult ? That's a novel theory, one not proven by the facts.[/color]You of all people should accept that a great many courses have been altered over the years because you are forever railing on about it. Don't be vague or nondiscriptive, what courses ?Be specific.My complaint isn't that courses have been altered to make them more challenging. So, I don't know where you concocted that erroneous idea.[/color]Jeepers, loads of courses would change even if man didn't design the changes. Would you tell me how NGLA, Shinnecock, GCGC and TOC would change if man didn't change them ?[/color] So far, you have not shown any evidence which directly links the increased popularity of golf at the expense of architecture. You made a few proclaimations and expected (presumably) your audience to accept them. Turn over some credible evidence and I will give your question more consideration, or is this a rhetorical question ?Only someone with limited or non-existent powers of observation could make a remark like the one above.Credible evidence ?What do you call the removal of bunkers ?What do you call the softening of bunkers ?What do you call the removal of slope in the putting surface ?What do you call the removal of contour in the putting surface ?What do you call the building of five and six sets of tees ?What do you call the creation of buffers of rough between fairway and bunkers ?What do you call the creation of buffers of rough between the fairway and water hazards ?What do you call the removal of pronounced earthen features ?What do you call the softening of prounounced earthen features ? You'd have to be obtuse, at best, not to see the trend.[/color]
Sean,I can't help it if you can't connect the dots.How can you state that creating buffers of rough between the fairways and hazards isn't dumbing down the golf course ?How can you possibly state that it makes the course better ?The same goes for all of the items on the list.Saying you're obtuse isn't name calling, it's a statement of fact.
Sean,OK.Is creating a buffer of rough between a bunker and the fairway in order to slow down and prevent the ball from running into that bunker dumbing down the architecture ?Does the addition of that feature defeat the architect's purpose and the architectural function of that bunker ?
What do you call the removal of bunkers ?What do you call the softening of bunkers ?What do you call the removal of slope in the putting surface ?What do you call the removal of contour in the putting surface ?What do you call the building of five and six sets of tees ?What do you call the creation of buffers of rough between fairway and bunkers ?What do you call the creation of buffers of rough between the fairway and water hazards ?What do you call the removal of pronounced earthen features ?What do you call the softening of prounounced earthen features ?