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Bill_McBride

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Valley Club New Construction Photos
« on: October 27, 2007, 05:54:26 PM »
Here are some photos of the work that has been done to date at the Valley Club during this current restoration project stage.

I haven't been there since May 2006, so can't really do much more than post these.  My friends who are members and know what a GCA geek I am took them last Saturday and sent them on.  Perhaps Tom Doak can add some comments.  I believe most of the greens have been restored to original dimensions, adding quite a bit of square footage.

The members are playing temporary greens during construction and grow in, and you'll see a couple of examples.  They didn't play 8, 9, 16, 17 or 18, so no photos of those holes.

Here's #1, where a very large tree near the left OB line has been removed.  This tree grew over the years and blocked shots from the best angle to reach the short par 5 green in two.  Removal of the tree brings the dangerous OB left into play once again!



The second hole is a par 5 sharp dogleg left around the boundary, which is a tall hedge between Valley Club and the neighboring Birnam Woods CC (world's tightest RTJ Jr course on incredibly expensive real estate) next door.  The big change here, as I understand it, was enlargement of the two fairway bunkers to bring them more into play.  Here is a view from the tee as well as a closeup of the left bunker:




#3, a 436 yard par 4, toughest on the course, has been made more difficult by the addition of a left side fairway bunker.  The safe play has always been up the left side; this will now be as dangerous as the right side.



Here's a close up of the new fairway bunkering on the left:


Here's a view from opposite the new bunker ahead to the green.  Note the "scare" bunkers on the hill behind #3 green, these were done in earlier restorations and for some reason arouse the ire of some GCAers.  ::)



This is the fourth green, wonderful drop shot par 3.  I understand that the green has been enlarged but it appears the big change could be either removal or severe cutting back of the giant tree on the left side that obstructed lots of good-looking iron shots to this green!



Here's the sixth green, a very short par 4 (~300 yards), where the green appears to have been increased in size dramatically.  This will make it even harder to get that pitch shot close to the hole.  There is a lot of left to right slope on this green, although the front right appears very high in this photo.  Perhaps it was raised in the new construction?



This is the 11th hole, which has been discussed here quite a bit recently.  The green has been enlarged, as have the greenside bunkers.



This is #12, very good short par that requires a fade off the tee. The best tee shots have always been closest to the barranca on the right, left side tee shots can actually be blocked out by the hillside and trees on the left.  Up on the hill left is dead.  The new addition is the restored fairway bunker on the right side, adding another element of danger to the best tee shot angle.



Here's the 12th green from behind.  You can see the trouble on the left side of the fairway (big tree), but I'm not sure if that's the new fairway bunker you can see in the distance.  You usually can't see Valley Club bunkers from the target side.



Final photo, par 5 #15 up to the clubhouse.  What a view!  ;D  One of the temporary greens is right in front of the photographer, not sure what it's doing way down the fairway.  I think this photo is from between the spectacle bunkers.  I'm also not sure what work was done on #15.  It has one of the smallest greens on the course, and the steepest slope between two distinct tiers.  It would be difficult to add too much size to the green, as it falls off on both sides pretty quickly.


Tom_Doak

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2007, 07:47:09 PM »
Bill:

Those "new" fairway bunkers on #3 were on the as-built drawing of the golf course from its opening, but for years that entire portion of the hole was grown over by bushes and trees to hide the maintenance facility.  The trees were cleared out a couple of years ago, enabling us to put the bunkers back, too.

Thanks for posting the picture of #11 -- I hadn't seen a photo with the "restored" oak tree at the front right.  I'm glad I suggested that!

Bill_McBride

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 11:11:56 PM »
Tom, wondering how many square feet were added to greens such as #4, #5 and #6?  Was anything added to #15?  

I loved the last round of changes, including all the closely mown areas between #15 and #18, and look forward to seeing this latest work next summer.

Yes, that hillside left of #3 was more penal than a bunker with all the shrubs and trees screening the maintenance building.  What is hiding the building now?

I admire the membership who are paying dearly, both in time on temporary greens and financially, to restore the course to early glory.  The leadership obviously has the vision.  I know there is a new back tee for #7; were any other new tees built?

I understand there are no plans to rebuild the 10th fairway.  Is that for sure?  It's a pretty weird hole as played these days, very much subject to the whims of the bounce of the tee ball off that broken hillside since the landslides.

And are they going to move the kiosk?  I hope not, it's the most convenient "halfway" house in golf as is.

Joshua Pettit

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 03:52:30 AM »
Bill,

To answer you question about the size increase of the greens:

#4:  Before - 2647 sq. ft. / After - 3548 sq. ft.
#5:  Before - 3457 sq. ft. / After - 5122 sq. ft.
#6:  Before - 4498 sq. ft. / After - 6228 sq. ft.
#11:  Before - 3422 sq. ft. / After - 4382 sq. ft.
#15:  Before - 2545 sq. ft. / After - 4584 sq. ft.
#18:  Before - 4502 sq. ft. / After - 5050 sq. ft.

"The greatest and fairest of things are done by nature, and the lesser by art."

Tom_Doak

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 10:06:31 AM »
Bill:

While the numbers provided by Josh show that the area of #15 green was almost doubled, much of that is by restoring a false front section of the green.  The area which can be used for hole locations is only slightly bigger, at the back left.  The area for hole locations on the 18th is likely smaller, since we put back some of the original tilt in the green and there's now a big slope between the back and middle levels.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 10:47:04 AM »
Thanks, Tom.  Can't wait to see it.  I didn't realize #15 green was quite THAT small!  All the more reason to always take on the spectacles.....

Thanks for the information, Josh.

Anything doing re: the tenth fairway before the cross hazard?
« Last Edit: October 28, 2007, 10:48:04 AM by Bill_McBride »

Joshua Pettit

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2007, 03:18:58 PM »
Bill,

There are no plans to do anything to the tenth fairway.  The hillside to the left of the hole has slid many times since the 30s, thus creating the “weird” fairway.  The consensus amongst the membership is that any attempt to re-grade the fairway would make the hillside more susceptible to future slides.  

If I had to bet I would say that the fairway could be manipulated subtly to make is easier to maintain and look a little less out of place, while still providing stability for the adjacent hillside.  Also a few years back there was a massive drainage infrastructure installed to divert a lot of the runoff, which has thus far been successful in preventing any more sliding.

However it is understandable that the membership doesn’t want to take any chances.

"The greatest and fairest of things are done by nature, and the lesser by art."

Bill_McBride

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2007, 04:08:04 PM »
Thanks, Josh.  That is the only "weird" hole on the course, obviously, and it's really beautiful once you get to your tee shot, especially if it has somehow found a flat perch for the second shot across the barranca!  Bounces off the hillside are pretty much luck of the draw on the tee shot, but the second shot is all about hitting the ball well.

Tim Rooney

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2007, 09:34:20 PM »
Bill, many thanks for the pictures,#11 is a surrealistic green complex 'Rembrandt', that appears so natural and inviting!

Bill_McBride

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Re:Valley Club New Construction Photos
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2007, 09:39:35 PM »
Tim, it looks a lot better now than before the latest work, although many GCAers think all those bunkers are too "busy!"  :-X

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