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Roger Tufts

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2007, 09:11:23 PM »
A little off-topic, can anyone tell me what kind of tree this is? It will appear again in coming months... thats all im saying. A couple of you might know where I am going with this.



Thanks
« Last Edit: October 19, 2007, 09:12:37 PM by Roger Tufts »
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igrowgrass

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2007, 12:19:44 AM »
Is that a tri-color beech?

igrowgrass

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2007, 12:22:25 AM »
could also be a sweet or black gum.

Tony Ristola

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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2007, 01:45:02 AM »
I'm partial to oak, linden, beech and pine.

Oak because they have great character with or without leaves and because their they drop their leaves late in the fall, to early winter. The problem is they take forever to grow.

Linden and beech just look great. Beech can have great, ghostly branches that look fine when bare. I like the smooth bark. A stark contrast to most trees. Linden changes color during the summer, adding contrast.

Pine is the only tree that looks fantastic whether very young or mature. In places where it hasn't been farmed into a monoculture of straightness you get that sinister, twisted look.

I love apple trees too, but they attract too many pests and their litter is a problem.

I've seen too much birch to fall in love with it, though old birch trees, when they've shed their whiteness look good too. I've recently seen small clumps-islands of young birch that look terrific, but the problem is they grow too rapidly to maintain the look.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 02:06:34 AM by Tony Ristola »

Roger Tufts

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2007, 02:47:03 AM »
Back on topic, my favorite are Weeping Willows, Norfolk Pines (Kapalua...) and Cypress.

Thanks for the help guys! As for the tree, I don't believe it is a Sweet or Black gum, but it could be a Tri-Color beech. Any more input is welcome!

With apple trees... funniest thing ive seen with them, is that the public course near our house in Northern Maine, Va-Jo-Wa Golf Course (If anyone besides Brad has played this, I'll be impressed)... there are apple trees on the left side of the first fairway. The funny part is, when the apples fall from the tree, the fairway is so sloped that the apples run over 100 feet down the slope into the rough on the opposite side. Good times.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 02:52:50 AM by Roger Tufts »
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wsmorrison

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2007, 10:04:40 AM »
There are a few of these trees at Indian Creek in Miami, FL.  Fortunately, none are near the line of play.  Does anybody know what kind of tree it is?  They are very large and very interesting looking.


Mark Bourgeois

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2007, 10:11:23 AM »
Wayne

If I'm not mistaken that is a beautiful Banyan tree. But they're easy to confuse with the ficus tree (ficus benjamina).  The major difference is ficus leaves are small, Banyan medium-sized.

How big are the leaves?

Mark

EDIT: Actually, with those shoots it looks more like a ficus...

SECOND EDIT: I should say the Banyan actually is another type of ficus, which of course is a fig.  This is looking more and more to me like a ficus (ficus benjamina), although the leaves look a little too big.  BTW, there is a fascinating story to the introduction of the non-native Banyan to Florida.  Thomas Edison and Harvey Firestone thought they could produce rubber in the U.S. Typical Florida story of dreams, greed, ignorance, and species invasion!
« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 10:20:44 AM by Mark Bourgeois »

wsmorrison

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2007, 10:21:38 AM »
Thanks, Mark.  I don't know if you would call those leaves medium or small.  It is a beautiful tree...sort of prehistoric looking.

Mark Bourgeois

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2007, 10:38:05 AM »
Florida's the best state in the Union for trees, although you'll never see fall foliage.

You need to get out to the Everglades down there and see the cypress, Tupelo, black mangrove -- and red mangrove:




The palm trees are awesome, too. I go back and forth on the Brazilian, Queen Anne and Royal. You don't need to go to a swamp to see them, just the latest subdivision...

Mark

Tim Bert

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2007, 04:06:28 PM »
I don't have the names of specific species, but I tend to like interesting looking, single trees that tend not to get in the way of play.  There are a few at Bandon (on #16 at Bandon Dunes) and I really like what I see from the pictures of MPCC.

Shorty's at Bandon has some nice trees with red trunks that I found quite alluring... There's one on the right side of this photo.



And a couple in the background here...



I also like the solitary tree short of the stone wall on #14 at Newport National


wsmorrison

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2007, 04:40:26 PM »
A lot of trees were removed at this course.  This tree must have been wrapped around another trunk.  It was rightly retained as it looks really cool.


Norbert P

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2007, 11:06:46 PM »
  Nice photos gents.

The Banyan is otherworldy, for sure. Here is a little info.  

  "A banyan is a fig that starts its life as an epiphyte when its seeds germinate in the cracks and crevices on a host tree (or on structures like buildings and bridges). "Banyan" often refers specifically to the species  - Ficus benghalensis - , though the term has been generalized to include all figs that share a unique life cycle. The seeds of banyans are dispersed by fruit-eating birds. The seeds germinate and send down roots towards the ground, and may envelope part of the host tree of building structure with their roots, giving them the casual name of strangler fig. The "strangling" growth habit is found in a number of tropical forest species, particularly of the genus Ficus."

Roger, the dark tree could be many possiblilities. Any description of seeds and leaves will help.

Tony, wie gehts?  Linden blossoms make a good tea, as well. Ever been to the Linderhof, in Germany. They have HUGE Linden specimens.  Some Birches are messy, especially the European (Betula pendula) but some are classy and well behaved.   Betula jacquemontii is a great selection for groving as is River Birch 'Heritage'.

Tom, C King Norway Maples were a marketing marvel.  In the right proportion they give nice richness, contrast and depth, but when overused as they often are, they create a somber gloominess. Like all Norways, they are very durable.

  On the larches at R Club, I assume they are the Euro variety.  I'm very curious as to their uses (and other deciduous conifers) for golf courses as I see a seasonal turf benefit by allowing sunlight to get to the ground for the rainy season while generally growing fairly verticle.  I'm interested if it's their bleakness in the winter that most people dislike or some other characteristic.

Mark B.   "Florida's the best state in the Union for trees, although you'll never see fall foliage."
   I appreciate the pride but I think there are many states that would disagree.  I am intrigued at how those trees grow on those little atolls in the saltwater.

Blue Gums should be avoided but there are some terrific Eucalyptus selections that are managable and not too invasive. (See your local extension service. (My disclaimer)

Thanks again y'all.

« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 11:07:57 PM by Slag Bandoon »
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Mark Bourgeois

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2007, 12:26:10 AM »
Slag,

Re Florida, I'm no homer! Uh, nor am I a tree expert. BUT: there sure is a lot of tree diversity in that state.  I swear there must be hundreds of palm trees alone.  Then you've got all the upland and swamp hardwood forests. And then there are the commercial crops: oranges (did you know they can produce fruit upwards of 100 years?), lemons, grapefruit -- oh, and the nearly-vanished (and unique) Key lime.

Of course, you won't see any birch...

Hey, speaking of epiphytes, how 'bout seeing a big staghorn fern growing in one of those Banyan or ficus trees? Or for that matter, an orchid?

Mark

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2007, 06:58:14 PM »
Wayne if the leaves are 2" and under and the mature ones are dark green then if

A) the branch habit is weeping it's - Ficus Benjamina.
B) the habit is more errect then it's Ficus Nitida.

the overall size is no problem for these varieties but it's hard to be sure from that picture.   My business was built on putting these plants in pots and selling them to offices. I've had few trips to Florida where I've tagged plants whaich are then shipped on to London vai Holland.  Going to the nurseries where they grow them (inland from Boca Raton/Palm Beach) was a blast.

Looking at the picutre I think the leaves are probably 3" plus and Slag correctly identified it as Ficus Bengalensis (or something very similar (there's lots of  varieties- which would also make Mark correct as a Banyan). However they are much less useful as an indoor plant. (Just trying to make this post 50% useful and 50% chummy ;D)
« Last Edit: October 21, 2007, 06:59:43 PM by Tony_Muldoon »
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Marty Bonnar

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2007, 07:17:51 PM »
I love the word 'Ficus'.

It will forever remind me of an 80s(?) US Sitcom which reused, in the form of 'the mike is in the ficus' (meaning a microphone was hidden in a weeping fig) the old Danny Kaye stuff from 'The Court Jester'.

'The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon, the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true'.

ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa....... ;)

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Mark Bourgeois

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2007, 09:47:00 PM »
Any ideas? I thought it might be a Banyan owing to leaves and trunk but are Banyans so "lateral" at this apparently-juvenile stage?

Maybe some type of Magnolia?

Mark

Craig Sweet

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2007, 10:00:39 PM »
It looks like a big ass Rhodie or maybe a magnolia.
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Mark Bourgeois

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« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2007, 10:57:12 PM »
Unbelievable, this site. Craig, what's a Rhodie?

Joe Hancock

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2007, 10:59:11 PM »
Unbelievable, this site. Craig, what's a Rhodie?

Rhododendron.....I think. And, in jest...I think....... :)

Joe
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Mark Bourgeois

Re:Tree Species
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2007, 11:00:24 PM »
Don't think so. I Googled "Rhodie" and came up with an African tree, (at least I think I did; I couldn't find any good pics) and this picture was taken in Africa!

Joe Hancock

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Re:Tree Species
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2007, 11:05:57 PM »
Don't think so. I Googled "Rhodie" and came up with an African tree, (at least I think I did; I couldn't find any good pics) and this picture was taken in Africa!

I left myself an out.... ;D
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