need source information for two quotes from mackenzie

[Jay Flemma]

Does anyone have the quote source info for the following two quotes?  Thanks I appreciate the help.

"The best holes give rise to the most-bitter controversy."

"golf-course design is all about designing holes on the borderline where strokes can slip away so easily or be regained quickly and dramatically."



* Author
* Title
* City where first published
* Publisher
* Year of first publishing
* Page number


If the particular quote did not arise from a book, please send all available information of where it did originate.  Thanks!

[Eric Smith]

Jay,

I saw this in the Feature Interview with Mike Strantz:

"I offer the following quotes from The Spirit of St. Andrews by Dr. Alister Mackenzie:
...'It frequently happens the best holes give rise to the most bitter controversy'..."

Don't have my copy with me at the office but perhaps someone else does and can help you further.

[Bill_McBride]

So far as I know he only wrote "Golf Architecture" and "The Spirit of St Andrews" but could be wrong.  I'm at the office so don't have the volumes in hand, but perhaps Amazon has the information you want.

Those are both books well worth reading.

[Jay Flemma]

Yeah, I thought they were in spirit...I'm in the office and this popped up suddenly scud attacking my billables.  

[Jay Flemma]

bump

[BCrosby]

Jay -

I'll check some places tonight.

[Bill_McBride]

Where else could it be but Spirit of St Andrews?  All the stuff in Golf Architecture is there too, as well as a good recipe for all those rabbits, if I recall correctly.

[Jay Flemma]

Well Mike Strantz said it was in SOSA, but I'll be damned if I can find it...I'm re-reading again during my subway ride.

[Jay Flemma]

Found the first one!  p. 120 in Spirit!