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Jim Thompson

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #125 on: October 19, 2007, 12:19:04 PM »
I'm starting to think some of you have an agenda of getting me to take the points...
Jim Thompson

Tom Huckaby

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #126 on: October 19, 2007, 12:27:01 PM »
I'm starting to think some of you have an agenda of getting me to take the points...

Jim, if you have a way of getting a bet down for such, DO IT!  I say this as the fanatic Trojan fan you know from previous years... USC right now can't score 18 points let alone beat any team by that margin.  If you can get 18-19, bet a LOT.

TH

Geoffrey Childs

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #127 on: October 19, 2007, 12:29:06 PM »
Dear John

   Life is far too short and precious for time to be wasted with hatred.  I certainly do not hate you.  We will most likely never agree on politics or religion and I am as comfortable with that as you most likely are.

   As for my motives in writing to you – well you can have your glass half empty or half full and I prefer to assume the latter. I said you were in good hands at Mayo Clinic but the man facing a potentially critical decision who chooses not to get a second opinion is not doing him/herself justice IMHO.  Had you looked at my Thyroid Cancer research article you might have noticed that my collaborators on the paper were from Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center.  They are among the world’s most preeminent specialists in clinical cancer care in general and in this disease specifically. That you did not respond to my note is fine.  That you hate me and think I need to use this to garner favor with members of this board is fine as well. I can live with your reaction either way but my note was a sincere effort to reach out and help specifically if I could and to try to get past all this petty internet nonsense.

   I will still wish you well in all you do.  I will offer you a round of golf as my guest at Yale if you ever get to the liberal Northeast and I will promise that the conversation will be limited to golf, golf architecture and equipment if you wish.  I will use my skycaddie but you can find you own yardages.

All the best

Geoffrey

John Kavanaugh

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #128 on: October 19, 2007, 12:45:23 PM »
I forgive you, you knew not what you did.

Steve Wilson

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #129 on: October 19, 2007, 12:58:28 PM »
I posted this to Huckaby last night just as this thread was moving towards the first signs of reconciliation.  I reveal it now in the full and certain knowledge that there's merit in plotting behind people's back right in front of them.  In other words, it may still work.

"Huck,

Let me get this straight.  Gib and Wayne get into a food fight and now you and Arble are planning a four ball in the Philadelphia.  If you guys end up playing Merion together, I'm going to start insulting any and allGCAers on Long Island with intention of getting a kiss and make up weekend at NGLA.  In fact, I intend on being so obnoxious that I will be offered a freebie  just to prove what a disagreeable and ungrateful bastard I am.  

This may require some research so that I can carefully calibrate my calumnies and slurs for maximum effect.  If you happen to get caught in the crossfire of seemingly irrational ranting and raving, be assured you needn't take it personally and that you are simply collateral damage to my  nefarious plan.  If I do this right, I may spend next summer trekking to and fro over NGLA, Shinnecock and Sebonack.  I think I'll start by demanding credit card #s with expiration dates and insist that the credit line is at least $50,000. I don't want to have to hang out with any cheapskates.  If there are any gaps in the foursomes I'll keep you in mind.  Now, I have to think up a handle (that is an open secret) to conceal my identity to the uninformed.  Wish me luck,  especially with my new prescription.

Regards,

Steve Wilson

P. S.  I'm thinking of GyroBarney as a new handle--what do you think?  Enigmatic or too obvious?"


Members of prestigious clubs who would like to be senslessly abused by me prefatory to indulging in thoroughly unwarranted guilt trips ending with obsequious attemps to  mollify me with offers of access etc. should provide their names via Instant Messaging.  If you do it in an open thread it will blow the whole gig.  Any number of truly decent people might try to climb on board this scurrilous blackguards's gravy train, and then I would have to spend time hobnobbing with genial golf obsessed folk.  

I apologize for all the multisyllabic words, but my thesaurus exploded.

By the way, it would be helpful if those contacting me via IM would provide me a selection of hot buttons I could use to insult them.  It would save me a lot of trouble finding their sore spots via the hunt and peck system.  I can be disagreeable on virtually any topic and on any level of discourse.  That is I can aspire to faux Churchillian put downs or descend to vernacular of the uncouth.  Just another service I can offer.  Signing off now in anticipation of a blizzard of communications from hitherto unknown masochists.
   
« Last Edit: October 19, 2007, 02:49:19 PM by Steve Wilson® »
Some days you play golf, some days you find things.

I'm not really registered, but I couldn't find a symbol for certifiable.

"Every good drive by a high handicapper will be punished..."  Garland Bailey at the BUDA in sharing with me what the better player should always remember.

John Kirk

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #130 on: October 19, 2007, 12:58:29 PM »
I thought I'd actually answer Jeff's question.

My agenda has changed over the years.  Originally, John VanderBorght encouraged me to join, a couple years after filling in at a Bandon GCA outing.  He thought I would meet like-minded people, and learn more about architecture.

Before joining GCA, I had made a life goal of seeing America.  I'm much less interested in traveling abroad.  Although basketball was my true passion as a young man, I had developed a passing interest in golf and in great golf courses, through things like board games and picture books.  As I grew older, my passion grew for seeing and playing the great courses.  It would be disingenuous for me to say my motives were completely pure.  Early on, joining GolfClubAtlas seemed an excellent vehicle for expanding my circle of friends, including the possibility of gaining access to some of these great courses.

I have participated here almost daily for four plus years.  I've made one  significant contribution, the notion of measuring golf shots in the time dimension.  As a result, I gained some credibility within the group, plus the opportunity to publish an article on the elapsed time of golf shots.  To use a recently overused expression, this has emboldened me to consider other golf writing possibilities, including a couple of course profiles for the same magazine.

I am a champion of modern course design.  The great modern courses, constructed over the last 10-15 years, have much to offer:

1)  Pure, homogenous stands of modern grasses scientifically designed for optimal playing conditions.  I like to study the early evolution of these courses, and the impact of native grass species like poa annua.

2)  A grand variety of complex new course designs, fueled by a wealthy American economy, and an abundance of competitive, talented designers.  We are in the midst of the second Golden Age.

3)  Modern courses are designed to play with modern equipment.

4)  Many of the great modern courses, like Bandon Trails, are built on unspoiled natural land, compared to the old courses, on which the hand of man is far more evident.

I do enjoy my experiences at older courses immensely, too.    But at some level, they serve to further my golf architecture education, so that I can better understand modern course design.  I love many of the great old courses, but my focus is what's happening now.

I still participate here almost daily.  After four years, joining GolfClubAtlas may mark a turning point, where I found my niche and and made my contribution to the world.  At age 48, that may sound a bit sad, but true.  I am very grateful for the opportunity.  I have made many friends.

When not traveling and playing, I try to settle down and write about my experiences.  In addition, I try to regularly offer my opinions here, based on my unique views of what golf should look like, and how it should be played.  Thanks for everything.


Dan Kelly

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #131 on: October 19, 2007, 01:11:51 PM »
I posted this to Huckaby last night just as this thread was moving towards the first signs of reconciliation.  I reveal it now in the full and certain knowledge that there's merit in plotting behind people's back right in front of them.  In other words, it may still work.

Huck,

Let me get this straight.  Gib and Wayne get into a food fight and now you and Arble are planning a four ball in the Philadelphia.  If you guys end up playing Merion together, I'm going to start insulting any and allGCAers on Long Island with intention of getting a kiss and make up weekend at NGLA.  In fact, I intend on being so obnoxious that I will be offered a freebie  just to prove what a disagreeable and ungrateful bastard I am.  

This may require some research so that I can carefully calibrate my calumnies and slurs for maximum effect.  If you happen to get caught in the crossfire of seemingly irrational ranting and raving, be assured you needn't take it personally and that you are simply collateral damage to my  nefarious plan.  If I do this right, I may spend next summer trekking to and fro over NGLA, Shinnecock and Sebonack.  I think I'll start by demanding credit card #s with expiration dates and insist that the credit line is at least $50,000. I don't want to have to hang out with any cheapskates.  If there are any gaps in the foursomes I'll keep you in mind.  Now, I have to think up a handle (that is an open secret) to conceal my identity to the uninformed.  Wish me luck,  especially with my new prescription.

Regards,

Steve Wilson

P. S.  I'm thinking of GyroBarney as a new handle--what do you think?  Enigmatic or too obvious?


Members of prestigious clubs who would like to be senslessly abused by me prefatory to indulging in thoroughly unwarranted guilt trips ending with obsequious attemps to  mollify me with offers of access etc. should provide their names via Instant Messaging.  If you do it in an open thread it will blow the whole gig.  Any number of truly decent people might try to climb on board this scurrilous blackguards's gravy train, and then I would have to spend time hobnobbing with genial golf obsessed folk.  

I apologize for all the multisyllabic words, but my thesaurus exploded.

By the way, it would be helpful if those contacting me via IM would provide me a selection of hot buttons I could use to insult them.  It would save me a lot of trouble finding their sore spots via the hunt and peck system.  I can be disagreeable on virtually any topic and on any level of discourse.  That is I can aspire to faux Churchillian put downs or descend to vernacular of the uncouth.  Just another service I can offer.  Signing off now in anticipation of a blizzard of communications from hitherto unknown masochists.
   

1. Comedy routine in progress?

Or...

2. Post of the Year.

I vote: 2.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Tom Huckaby

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #132 on: October 19, 2007, 01:13:30 PM »
Put me down for choice 2 also.

See Steve, this was WAY too good to just leave with me.

 ;D ;D ;D

John Kirk - great stuff, very cool.

TH

Mike Benham

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #133 on: October 19, 2007, 01:35:33 PM »
I'm starting to think some of you have an agenda of getting me to take the points...

Trojans shaken by scary flight to ND

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- The plane carrying USC's football team to South Bend plummeted during a severe thunderstorm, forcing the pilot to abort his first landing attempt.

There were about 125 people, including 82 players, on the chartered flight Thursday night for the cross-country trip for Saturday's game.

"That was terrifying," fullback Stanley Havili told the Los Angeles Times. "I thought I was going to die."
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Mike Benham

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #134 on: October 19, 2007, 02:13:42 PM »

The Weather Channel reported strong wind shear currents eminating from both Philly and Hillsborough last night, pushed northward by similar currents from southern Indiana, all therefore smashing together in northern Indiana... ;)

Would that be the GCA equivalent of "The Perfect Storm" ?
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Gib_Papazian

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2007, 02:14:03 PM »
Steve,

Easily, post of the year.

However, you need not insult me to play Olympic - I already get the relentless needle from my friends, so your snide remarks would just be needless piling on.

I see you are from West Virginia, so the only caveat in my invitation is that we require shoes - barefoot play is frowned upon, even in our hopelessly egalitarian club.

How it is possible for a guy with so few posts to remember my alter-ego moniker from years ago is a mystery - unless you were one of those "Sneeky Petes."

If we all actually end up at Merion someday, don't count on playing the East Course with me - I think servants and Armenians are relegated to the West Course only. Perhaps I can caddy . . . . .

Barny,

If I can bury the hatchet (no, not in his skull) with Morrison, you can stop being an unrepentant twat to Childs. It is okay not to like somebody, but overt dicknosity has no place here - the Treehouse is too small.

Is "dicknosity" a word? I think it is a derivation of "dick-nose."  



« Last Edit: October 19, 2007, 02:16:26 PM by Gib Papazian »

George Pazin

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #136 on: October 19, 2007, 02:15:35 PM »
I thought I'd actually answer Jeff's question.

My agenda has changed over the years.  Originally, John VanderBorght encouraged me to join, a couple years after filling in at a Bandon GCA outing.  He thought I would meet like-minded people, and learn more about architecture.

Before joining GCA, I had made a life goal of seeing America.  I'm much less interested in traveling abroad.  Although basketball was my true passion as a young man, I had developed a passing interest in golf and in great golf courses, through things like board games and picture books.  As I grew older, my passion grew for seeing and playing the great courses.  It would be disingenuous for me to say my motives were completely pure.  Early on, joining GolfClubAtlas seemed an excellent vehicle for expanding my circle of friends, including the possibility of gaining access to some of these great courses.

I have participated here almost daily for four plus years.  I've made one  significant contribution, the notion of measuring golf shots in the time dimension.  As a result, I gained some credibility within the group, plus the opportunity to publish an article on the elapsed time of golf shots.  To use a recently overused expression, this has emboldened me to consider other golf writing possibilities, including a couple of course profiles for the same magazine.

I am a champion of modern course design.  The great modern courses, constructed over the last 10-15 years, have much to offer:

1)  Pure, homogenous stands of modern grasses scientifically designed for optimal playing conditions.  I like to study the early evolution of these courses, and the impact of native grass species like poa annua.

2)  A grand variety of complex new course designs, fueled by a wealthy American economy, and an abundance of competitive, talented designers.  We are in the midst of the second Golden Age.

3)  Modern courses are designed to play with modern equipment.

4)  Many of the great modern courses, like Bandon Trails, are built on unspoiled natural land, compared to the old courses, on which the hand of man is far more evident.

I do enjoy my experiences at older courses immensely, too.    But at some level, they serve to further my golf architecture education, so that I can better understand modern course design.  I love many of the great old courses, but my focus is what's happening now.

I still participate here almost daily.  After four years, joining GolfClubAtlas may mark a turning point, where I found my niche and and made my contribution to the world.  At age 48, that may sound a bit sad, but true.  I am very grateful for the opportunity.  I have made many friends.

When not traveling and playing, I try to settle down and write about my experiences.  In addition, I try to regularly offer my opinions here, based on my unique views of what golf should look like, and how it should be played.  Thanks for everything.



Helluva post, especially amidst all the mudslinging. Hats off.

Nothing wrong with finding your niche at 48. I often think the only good thing I've accomplished in the world is my son, which didn't happen 'till 37.

Be happy you feel you've found it at all; many don't.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Tom Huckaby

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #137 on: October 19, 2007, 02:16:38 PM »
If dicknosity wasn't a word before, it sure as hell is now.

 ;D

BVince

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #138 on: October 19, 2007, 02:48:29 PM »
Shivas,

What is up with the happy-go-lucky boy picture below your name?  Just curious
If profanity had an influence on the flight of the ball, the game of golf would be played far better than it is. - Horace Hutchinson

David Wigler

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #139 on: October 19, 2007, 03:54:23 PM »
In the beginning, when I was George Bahto's towel boy and valet, I read each post for pearls of wisdom, convinced that inclusion and acceptance on the board was an entrée' into the inner sanctum of golf's most respected architectural think tank.

Now, I just write random nonsense to piss off Wayne Morrison. As long as Barny is still sitting in the corner of the Treehouse, I will never be the most eccentric member.

In all reality, the reason I came back to this was I missed it terribly during a trying period of my life; climbing into the Treehouse periodically keeps me sane and in touch with people I care about.

I've a lot of friends here - not just in cyberspace, but guys who I've spent many a day and night with. When I was forced by circumstance to quit writing professionally, I was so full of remorse, anger and shame that I avoided this place; it reminded me of my past and how far removed I was from the things that made me happy.

So, after a while, I began to be convinced I had lost the ability to write in an entertaining and reasonably cogent fashion. Of course, the natural reaction is to stay away because confirming the truth would be worse than simply not knowing.

I'd also quit playing golf for the most part - except for tending to my seat with GD. Thus, I had little to say; my golf library was relegated to a dusty corner and I stopped reading and learning.

The Redhead had grown tired of my morose outlook and told me that if I did not improve my suck-ass attitude, she would kill me in my sleep. Those on this board who are married to a redhead will know that like Dobermans, they are fiercely loyal and protective, but will bite their owner if provoked.

It was strongly suggested to me that I start writing again and it seemed logical to start here.

So, in answer to the question: I've no agenda at all beyond just trying to exercise my atrophied writing muscles in the company of friends.

And the accusation that this website has been diminished by "group think," all I can say is if everyone always agreed, we would not have threads go on for pages and pages.

I joined six years ago because some wild Armenian Dude I met in Daufuskie Island talked me into it.  At the time, it was to learn and absorb everything I could about Golf Architecture.  Honestly now, it is simply to keep up with friends and occasionally offer an opinion if it can be of value.
And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

Jim Thompson

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #140 on: October 19, 2007, 06:50:06 PM »
I'm starting to think some of you have an agenda of getting me to take the points...

Trojans shaken by scary flight to ND

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- The plane carrying USC's football team to South Bend plummeted during a severe thunderstorm, forcing the pilot to abort his first landing attempt.

There were about 125 people, including 82 players, on the chartered flight Thursday night for the cross-country trip for Saturday's game.

"That was terrifying," fullback Stanley Havili told the Los Angeles Times. "I thought I was going to die."

The Weather Channel reported strong wind shear currents eminating from both Philly and Hillsborough last night, pushed northward by similar currents from southern Indiana, all therefore smashing together in northern Indiana... ;)

The tornado warning siren went off three times last night here and it was far worse down in South Bend area.  Elkhart was hit very hard from what I gather on the news.  I ddidn't like driving in it at 8:00, couldn't imagine flying in it any later...
Jim Thompson

Patrick_Mucci

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #141 on: October 19, 2007, 10:05:16 PM »

Just as only Nixon could go to China, only Pat Mucci could fully reconcile Gib and Wayne.   ;D ;D

I'm just wondering how Sean and I got aced out of the Reconciliation Golf Classic though.  Darn, all that hard work...  ;)

Pat, now that you've solved this one, this latest round of posts from John K. proves you have a tougher challenge:  Kavanaugh and Childs.  Just how great ARE your peacemaking skills?

The results of my efforts will be determined by the parties involved, I can only lead a horse to water.
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This might be a tougher nut.

BTW, oddly unimportant game this weekend, huh?  Oh, it means something to you and me for sure... but not like most years.  
It's a win-win situation for ND - no one expects anything out of them.  And USC is so injury riddled and dare I say it not as great as we all thought, that of course ND can win this game.  It's just strange how little it matters this year...

Not surprisingly, I disagree with you.

This is a huge game for both schools.

USC has only one loss and as such remains in the hunt for the championship.

Only OSU and BC are undefeated and they have some difficult games ahead of them.  Thus, it's not unlikely that a team/s with one loss will play for the National Championship.

USC desperately needs to win this game in order to remain in the hunt.  Another loss and they're probably out of it.
So this game is huge for them.

For ND, any win is significant, and a win against a one loss team ranked in the top 15 would be a huge boost.

So, this game is huge for them as well.

As to your assessment of USC.
Earlier this year they were proclaimed the best team in the nation, if not of ALL TIME.  They have a great defense, and a good offense.  I don't know about their special teams, but, with some pronouncing them the best of all time one would imagine that they're more than adequate.  And, they've got a very good coach and coaching staff.

As to injuries, every team gets nicked as the season progresses, so USC isn't the only team plagued by injury.

I think they'll beat ND by a sizable margin, but, that doesn't mean that an upset can't happen, only that it's unlikely.

You should really consider enrolling in my course, "College Football 101"  you'd enjoy it and be surprised by how many of your fellow GCA.comer's are enrolled.

Did anyone other than the computers think that USF was the # 2 team in the nation ?

And, those moronic sportscasters, shouting that USF deserved to play for the National Championship, where are they now ?  Why don't they admit that they know next to nothing and were dead wrong in putting them ahead of about 15 or more better teams.

Beating Kent State doesn't impress me either.
Unfortunately, wins and big wins impress the computers.

Tomorrow should be the start of another great weekend for college football.
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Gib_Papazian

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #142 on: October 19, 2007, 10:39:00 PM »
Patrick,

We are so far beyond "nicked up," I can state we are close to decimated.

One of the keys of our wonderous run the last few years has been the team avoided injuries to key players. Our luck ran out all at once.

I am constantly subjected to the ridiculous reasoning that because we are so deep at each postion, no injury can diminish our effectiveness.

Teams must play together, especially on the line. If your blocks of granite suddenly do not work in concert, and your quarterback is hurt and you no longer have a real live, no bullshit, sticky hands, big play receiver . . . . . . even Stanford can come into your house and piss in your Cheerios.

If I had to bet my life, I'd take 'SC - I am a Trojan first and foremost.

Yet, those who thought Brady Quinn was ND's best chance of breaking our win streak did not take into consideration that even the greatest empire can sometimes suffer setbacks.

What is going to happen?

"I am no prophet, I see only the shadows of ghosts."

- From the movie "Elizabeth.    
« Last Edit: October 19, 2007, 10:40:33 PM by Gib Papazian »

Andy Troeger

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #143 on: October 19, 2007, 11:08:33 PM »

BTW, oddly unimportant game this weekend, huh?  Oh, it means something to you and me for sure... but not like most years.  It's a win-win situation for ND - no one expects anything out of them.  And USC is so injury riddled and dare I say it not as great as we all thought, that of course ND can win this game.  It's just strange how little it matters this year...

TH

Tom,
The game is very important, its my last chance to not get ridiculed for having a big ND logo on my golf bag, jacket, hat, and most other items when I spend a few days in California next month in the company of Santa Clara and USC fans. I'll still have the bag and other items in any event  ;D

I was counting on women's soccer as I have in the past, however, it hasn't been a good year there either especially the Santa Clara game  >:(  I guess the tournament is all that really matters so I'll hold out hope there!

John_Conley

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #144 on: October 19, 2007, 11:56:35 PM »
Did anyone other than the computers think that USF was the # 2 team in the nation ?

Uh, Pat, they are the #2 team.  Won't be next week.

#3 Sagarin
#3 USA Today
#2 AP
#3 Harris

As for sportscasters, you probably follow it more closely than anyone else, BUT... I never heard anyone saying that the Bulls would play for the national championship UNLESS they won out.

Winning out would have been a tall order.

Notre Dame plays USC this weekend?  Wow.  Which game is a bigger disapppointment?  Miami vs. FSU or that one?  

I'll go on record for taking USC in a rout.  Seems like others here are calling for a close game.

Patrick_Mucci

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #145 on: October 20, 2007, 10:40:37 AM »

Did anyone other than the computers think that USF was the # 2 team in the nation ?

Uh, Pat, they are the #2 team.  Won't be next week.

They ceased being the # 2 team when the clock ran out in Piscataway.  You must not be familiar with IBNR.
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#3 Sagarin
#3 USA Today
#2 AP
#3 Harris

As for sportscasters, you probably follow it more closely than anyone else, BUT... I never heard anyone saying that the Bulls would play for the national championship UNLESS they won out.

Look at their upcoming schedule and tell me how winning out would have made them the best or second best team in the country ?

If Hawaii won out and Ohio State lost, would Hawaii and USF play for the National Championship ?

How would both teams fair in the Pac 10 or SEC or Big 10 ?

In a game against the following, who do you take, LSU, Florida, USC, OSU, OSU or Hawaii - USF ?
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Winning out would have been a tall order.

In looking at their schedule, [size=4x]IF[/size] they were truely the # 2 team in the country it wouldn't have been that daunting of a task.


Notre Dame plays USC this weekend?  Wow.  Which game is a bigger disapppointment?  Miami vs. FSU or that one?  

Neither one.

Both home campuses will be filled with pageantry electricity, excitement and anticipation.  This is what makes college football so terrific.  I would love to be on either or both campuses today.  

Records tend to get dismissed when college football rivals meet.  Rivalries in College Football are a spectacular component of the game.  Regardless of the records of the teams, whether it be Army-Navy. Texas-Oklahoma, OSU-Michigan, USC-ND, FSU-Miami, PSU-Syracuse, Harvard-Yale and countless others, those games will be great for the fans of the schools involved and for ALL TRUE fans of college football.  

Those who only look at the records of the participants to determine the substance and significance of the game are missing out, simply don't get it and aren't true fans of THE GAME.

I have a few seats left, that I've reserved for GCA.comers,
let me know if you'll be attending
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I'll go on record for taking USC in a rout.  Seems like others here are calling for a close game.

Perhaps you missed my comment on the game.

You usually can't keep the defensive unit on the field for 2/3 to 3/4 of the game and expect good results
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Gib,

Other teams are just as nicked up.
The reason you don't hear about it so much is that in most cases the nicked up players aren't THE superior players.
USC is so loaded with good players that when one goes down, it's news.  But, if the right guard at Cal or the left tackle at Texas go down, it's not big news outside of their area of influence.

You also have to remember that LA and NY are media hubs for the country.   The exposure in those two areas is extensive.

USC's defense was touted as the best in the country and deep.  ND's offense has been crawling and just begining to walk.  That's not a good combination if you're ND.  While ND's defense is improving, you can't keep the defense on the field for the majority of the game and expect good results.

After being ambushed once, perhaps from reading the headlines, I don't think USC is going to get ambushed again, but, there's always hope of an upset.

The race doesn't always go to the swiftest, nor the contest to the strong, but, that is the way to bet. ;D

Kalen Braley

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #146 on: October 20, 2007, 10:58:01 AM »
Gib/Huck/Other USC fans,

No disprespect, but you've got to admit the whole USC thing is getting old in light of the gobs of national championships they have won in the last 6 or 7 years.  You guys are starting to sound like Yankee fans... making excuses for actually losing a game, being disappointed when you only beat inferior teams by two touchdowns, thinking the sky is falling when your team drops out of the top 10, being invited to one of the other "lowly" bcs bowl games, not the championship game, etc, etc.   ;)

There are how many dozens of other teams in college FB who would love to be half the team that USC is. Which reminds me of MPs Life of Brian, when Brian gets tossed in the jail cell, gets spat on, and then complains.  The old man on the wall in chains then says, "You Lucky Bastard, what I would give to get spat on by the Romans".

Yes, it could be worse, you could be a delusional ND fan, but come on guys, some perspective please.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #147 on: October 20, 2007, 04:21:19 PM »
Kalen,

Delusional ?

2005 = 9-3, with losses to Mich St in OT, USC by 3 in the last 3 seconds and Ohio State in a bowl.

2006 = 10-3 with losses to Michigan, USC and LSU in a bowl.

How good was USC and OSU in 2005 ?

How about Michigan, USC and LSU last year ?

When you have a difficult schedule, which ND has every year and play against quality opponents, who are contending for the National Championship, going undefeated is very difficult.

Especially if your players actually go to class and graduate.

Mike Salinetti

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #148 on: October 20, 2007, 06:39:14 PM »
To become a better golf course superintendent
Mike Salinetti
Golf Course Superintendent
Berkshire Hills Country Club
Pittsfield, MA

Kalen Braley

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Re:What's Your Agenda on GCA.com?
« Reply #149 on: October 20, 2007, 08:49:32 PM »
Kalen,

Delusional ?

2005 = 9-3, with losses to Mich St in OT, USC by 3 in the last 3 seconds and Ohio State in a bowl.

2006 = 10-3 with losses to Michigan, USC and LSU in a bowl.

How good was USC and OSU in 2005 ?

How about Michigan, USC and LSU last year ?

When you have a difficult schedule, which ND has every year and play against quality opponents, who are contending for the National Championship, going undefeated is very difficult.

Especially if your players actually go to class and graduate.


Come on Pat, do I have to put a smiley after every statement??   ;D  ;D

But the quote of the game by the announcers came mid 4th quarter when they burped out this beauty:

"Not to pile on or anything, but USC has as many touchdowns in this game as ND has first downs".  An instant classic!!   8)