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Rick Shefchik

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Re:"Choking Freak'in Dogs . . ." OT
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2007, 11:51:21 PM »
Thanks, Phil. I understand what you're saying. You expressed yourself very well.

I also understand what Lloyd said. I've also performed onstage with  a guitar and a vocal mike, and I know that the presence of an audience makes singing and playing more difficult than it is in rehearsal, and much more difficult when the audience is one for which I very much wanted to perform well. Just as in important (for me) golf events and tournaments, the more I want it, the more likely I am to, as they say, "get in my own way."

I know choking is a harsh word. It might not be the best way to describe what happens when the importance of the moment causes you to focus more on the result than on the execution of the fundamentals, but we all know it happens, and regardless of the size of the stage, the feeling is universal.

The interesting thing about heightened pressure, be it in sports or music, is that it also brings out the best in us. There are times when I want the heightened importance of the moment, because I know it tends to focus my efforts to a point where I can dig down and find the best that's in me. And there are times where I'll fail to find that, and deliver a poor performance.

I'm comfortable calling those times choking, but I understand your reluctance to use that word. And where I'd probably agree with you, and disagree with the sentiments behind Dottie Pepper's comment, is that most performers are capable of responding both miserably and magnificently under pressure. One  choke -- or even several -- does not make a choker.  
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Mark Pearce

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Re:"Choking Freak'in Dogs . . ." OT
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2007, 04:44:13 AM »
I liked Patty Sheehan's reported response.  She said, and I paraphrase, that TV commentary is for tired old golfers who aren't good enough to play any more and that the longer you spend as a commentator the better you think you were.

Faldo may have been pretty self-obsessed but I don't think he was ever in the Dottie Pepper class.
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Lloyd_Cole

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Re:"Choking Freak'in Dogs . . ." OT
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2007, 07:57:26 AM »
I liked Patty Sheehan's reported response.  She said, and I paraphrase, that TV commentary is for tired old golfers who aren't good enough to play any more and that the longer you spend as a commentator the better you think you were.

Faldo may have been pretty self-obsessed but I don't think he was ever in the Dottie Pepper class.

Mark

She is way off there. I don't hear Faldo doing the Miller thing, he doesn't need to. Baker Finch, Rankin, Feherty - none of them fall into it, in fact I'd say they tend to be overly modest (probably aware of what a twit Miller sounds like).

Mark Pearce

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Re:"Choking Freak'in Dogs . . ." OT
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2007, 08:38:13 AM »
Lloyd,

I absolutely agree with you. I don't think Sheehan was intending to generalise, her comments were aimed at one person only, Ms Pepper.

We'll miss your presence at Ganton tomorrow - looking forward to meeting uplater in the week if you can make it.

Mark
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John_Cullum

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Re:"Choking Freak'in Dogs . . ." OT
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2007, 04:02:03 PM »
She just said what anybody paying attention was thinking. I can't call her on the carpet for it
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PThomas

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Re:"Choking Freak'in Dogs . . ." OT
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2007, 04:02:49 PM »
she's a very good announcer...it was a mistake that her comment got on the air

I hope thye don't overreact and fire her....there are so many announcers of FAR less quality than her..they should be fired for incompetence
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