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Joe Perches:
--- Quote from: corey_miller on September 12, 2007, 12:11:37 AM ---the first picture has in excess of 100 trees that need to be removed.
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I believe the first picture doesn't show 100 trees. Some of the trees separate the practice range from the first hole. Given the land constraint, I think it's a better visual to hide or obscure the range.
Here's a nice aerial:
Glen Head 1st hole Oblique
Could you be more specific? Do you think all of the interior trees should be removed?
--- Quote ---Most every course in the Met area would benefit from tree removal.
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Probably, but deciding on all or some or selected or just a few is a decision for the memberships, and sometimes unfortunately, the planning boards and town councils.
wsmorrison:
Robert,
George Holland, the historian of the Creek Club was very helpful in providing us what little archival history of the development of the Women's National golf course, now Glen Head.
While Devereux Emmet was retained in the mid 1920s to manage the property, payroll records record payments to him, there are two large payments to Toomey and Flynn for “additional golf course construction” work. These represent the only payments made during those years for golf course construction. The first payment was $7,500.00 made on December 15, 1926 for work done earlier in the month. A second payment of $7,575.00 was made on April 22, 1927 for work done earlier in the month. Earlier records show a single large payment for golf course construction work was made out to Devereux Emmet in the amount of $39,000.00 for his golf course construction work in August of 1923.
The nature of Flynn’s work is unknown. The payments indicate the construction project was a significant one. It remains to be seen if there were any design plans provided by Flynn.
If you look at late 1930s and early 1940s aerials of Women's National and nearby St. George's GCC, the styles of the two courses are remarkably different with St. George's looking more like his other courses. Its hard to say what happened there at this point, but I don't think the complete story is close to being understood.
corey miller:
How specific do you want me to be on the tree issue on this hole?
How about on the right remove trees 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,8...47
I count 47 trees up the right through the dogleg. Cut down 35, the course will still be "wooded" ??? and the better trees can be highlighted. Even with the range I would do the same thing up the left. I never said it wasn't the clubs decision but if they want "protection" they would get more if they put up a barrier like exists along the LIE. ;D
Doesn't the bunker on the left look a little funny? Is there a purpose for it?
I prefer vistas within a golf course over wall of trees where it is impossible to even identify and particularly speciman tree because they all are obscured.
As far as the local authorities. tell them you will keep the trees but build houses and see what the answer is. :D
tlavin:
Looks like a lovely piece of property. A lot of nice golf holes, too. And, of course, I agree that there's enough firewood there for the entire county.
Robert Mercer Deruntz:
They have removed some trees for sunlight considerations. However, as my side view picture of #8 shows, they have kept some of the worst framing trees. This green is supposed to be a skyline green. It is impossible to capture with a picture, but it is a reverse redan style green that fits very naturally into the hill. As for the Flynn connection, I could see how he might have done some of the preliminary work. Most Emmett courses I've played, begin with a rather benign hole--this is one of the hardest opening holes on Long Island.
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