My knock on ER has more to it than just the course. It's too much money for what you get and the rounds there take forever. Nowhere did I state that it shouldn't be played simply because the course itself isn't my cup of tea, so let's clear that up right now. I can name a few courses in a 30 mile radius that are better than ER (appro. acronym by the way
) without naming the obligatory TP, LC, Avia., Bar. Cr. I believe they have been named above already by myself and others.
And BTW, compared to the Bay Area, we have legitimate reasons to "cry" as you say (Patrick). This whole area is a desolate wasteland in terms of golf, and that's not just because of the courses themselves. Come on Hucks, you know full well what I'm talking about. This is a GCA site. People here are going to recommend good courses (or what they think are good courses). If they are 2 different things as you said, what difference does it make? Hell, play anywhere. Good or bad, they are all overpriced for the most part. If the course doesn't fall in the first category (good arch) then it falls in another, bad. Or at least bad value for the money. When someone asks me where to play around here, I always try to keep in mind that the course for most people is only one part of the equation. But remember where we are right now posting these comments. I would think the course itself is a little higher on the importance list. Call me strange, I can't play just for the sake of playing. My time is too limited.
OK, I'm done busting your balls.
Shew, I must've had too much coffee this morning!