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ANTHONYPIOPPI

The Noses of Principals
« on: August 28, 2007, 08:24:02 PM »
A couple of modern ones.

My favorite was always the original at Yale, which has, unfortunately, gone to the Big Golf Course In the Sky.

Comments?







Tom_Doak

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 09:11:52 PM »
Good Lord that is ugly.

Jimmy Muratt

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2007, 09:23:12 PM »
The best modern principal's nose bunker complex that I've seen is on the short par 4 15th hole at Boston Golf Club.  

Jeff_Brauer

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 09:40:39 PM »
We have a new design idiom - Principle's Noses with ugly cancerous warts......

Actually, in every photo posted, to my eye, the bunkers are too far apart, and I don't think the single bunker qualifies, does it?  

Or am I thinking more of the similar spectacles?

In keeping with the times, I am unveiling my "laser surgery" bunkers, which I hope will last a few hundred years as well.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

scott anderson

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 10:06:41 PM »
Jeff,

Just played the wilderness and quarry.   Great golf courses!!
Loved the "Prinipals Nose" on the par 3 7th at the wilderness.

Scott

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 02:11:53 PM »
Tom,

I don't understand your comment.

Tony

Bill_McBride

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2007, 04:31:33 PM »
To qualify as a nose there have to be two nostrils!

I think the Principal's Nose at #17 Yale is back in place - at least it was my one and only visit there a couple of summers back.

[Edit]  I see Yale #17 is the last photo.  It's supposed to be a PN but yes, no nostrils.   As I recall, there are a couple of good ones at NGLA.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2007, 04:33:17 PM by Bill_McBride »

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2007, 04:44:45 PM »
That Roger Rulewich is a true artist of the absurd.....

TEPaul

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2007, 04:50:26 PM »
Has anyone ever seen one of Max Behr's "Miss Grundy's Tits" mound hazards? He said they were supposed to both look and play ultra puritanical. I'd like to see one of our expert researchers dredge up an old photo of them because puritanical tits, even Miss Grundy's, seems sort of a contradiction in terms to me.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2007, 04:52:02 PM by TEPaul »

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2007, 05:02:02 PM »
Skinny,

Opinion on the other example?

TE,

Way to finally get these so called researchers onto something worthy of their time.

Anthony


Trey Kemp

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2007, 05:02:49 PM »
Here is my favorite, it is from Chicago Golf Club.

Hole #6
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2007, 05:06:33 PM »
Trey,

A fine one indeed.

So what do you think of the modern examples?

Anthony

John_Cullum

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2007, 05:43:55 PM »
"Playing",  "Tits" and "Puritanical" all in one sentence. Interesting
"We finally beat Medicare. "

Trey Kemp

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2007, 05:51:23 PM »
Anthony-

I think Mr. Doak said it the best.
twitter.com/TreyKempGCA

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2007, 06:08:12 PM »
Trey,

Those photos are of two bunkers. To which are you referring?

Anthony

« Last Edit: August 29, 2007, 06:47:47 PM by Anthony Pioppi »

TEPaul

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2007, 06:45:39 PM »
My favorite is on the Bottle Hole at NGLA.

D_Malley

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2007, 09:41:14 PM »
Jim Wagner recently put in a couple of new PN bunkers on our 5th hole.  i will try to get a couple of pics on here, but you can see them at link below.  just click on "more pictures" and page down to 5th hole


http://www.paxonhollowgolf.com/index2.html

D_Malley

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2007, 09:45:29 PM »
sorry looks like the link only will take you to the main page.  just click on "whats new" from main page.

paul cowley

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 08:55:22 AM »
Here is my favorite, it is from Chicago Golf Club.

Hole #6



Personally I think this bunker could benefit from a little eye lift......it might wake it up from its slumbered appearance.
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2007, 09:22:57 AM »
So let us get back to the original question:

We have four photos, representing two modern Principal's Nose Bunkers. What is the opinion of the two?

Anthony

TEPaul

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2007, 09:30:59 AM »
"So let us get back to the original question:"

Positively not, Anthony.

I virtually demand that we stick with "Miss Grundy's Tits" mound hazards for at least the next thirty six hours. But if you somehow produce a photo of said hazard feature I will cut it down to only three and a half hours.

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2007, 09:38:43 AM »
Let me rephrase:

Can we get off our collective asses and post a photo of Miss Grundy's tits please? Jesus.

Would a Crayon drawing of the Mae West feature at Tain suffice?

Anthony


BCrosby

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Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2007, 09:43:22 AM »
Before we get too deeply into the topic of large breasts (I am very much pro, btw ;)), can I ask a vocabulary question?

Is the Principal's Nose Bunker at the 16th at TOC  supposed to be the archetype? Or do we use the one at Woking? Or what?

I ask because the PN at Chicago looks nothing like what I think of as a PN. It just happens to be where you might put a PN.

It looks to me like a generic centerline bunker.

Bob
« Last Edit: August 30, 2007, 09:44:24 AM by BCrosby »

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2007, 10:00:44 AM »
B,

Now that's a good question. If we use The Old Course (I like to spell out all courses so the new people know to what we refer) then what era of the Nose do we use? The version today is much different than 1908.

What do you think of the two modern versions I posted?

Anthony

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:The Noses of Principals
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2007, 10:55:07 AM »
Antonio,
Gil installed a Principle's Nose at Rustic Canyon's 3rd after the flood. It's a very good PN, but it probably is a bit too bold for the more restrained Rustic terrain. It should have also been placed a little closer to the green, making coming in from the right side, a bit more daring. (along with a narrower green)