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Tommy Williamsen

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"I am a stupid"
« on: August 06, 2007, 10:45:32 PM »
My apologies to Roberto.
Yesterday I was playing the Mountain course at the Broadmoor.  I get to tjhe 15th hole.  The card says 168 yards from my tees.  I look at the distant green and it sure looks father than that.  I decide that the yardage must be off a bit.  I give them the benefit of the doubt and hit my six iron on the button and it winds up thirty yards short.  My wife has about 115 yards.  I tell her that the yardage is all wrong and that she should hit her driver.  Wham she takes a mighty blow and hits it fifty yards left of the green.  "What the heck is that,"  I query.  "You told me to hit the driver and I just airmailed the green"  I had aimed at the wrong green.  From my tee tall grass hide the view of the correct green so I hit it to the 17th green.  We both re-tee and play the hole.  I had never hit to wrong green before.

I bet I am not alone.
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Andy Troeger

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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 11:06:48 PM »
Tommy,
When I played there last month the fellow I was playing with and I sat there for about 3 minutes waiting for a fellow to mow the green. The 17th green. Meanwhile we tried to figure out how the heck it could only be 168 yards as you said. Once we got out of the cart we noticed the real green and the light came on :)

James Bennett

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Re:"I am a stupid"
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 12:21:24 AM »
Tommy

I did the same at Mt Gambier  (halfway between Adelaide and Melbourne) on the original course as a teenager.  #17 was a short, drop shot par 3 whereas #15(?) played perpendicular to #17, as a par 3, finishing some 30 yards long and right of #17 green.

I hit a 5-iron (or two) playing as a single, both on the wrong green, strolled off the tee muttering about how long the hole played given the yardage and the downhill nature, and lo and behold, then saw #17 green below.  I quckly returned to the tee and reloaded with perhaps an 8-iron, and then retrieved my errant shots on the wrong green.

Fortunately, there weren't other golfers around.  How embarassment.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Bill_McBride

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Re:"I am a stupid"
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 01:01:32 AM »
I was playing the New Course at St Andrews for the first time last March - with GCAer John Krystynak - and didn't know #3 was on a double green with #15.  I hit the prettiest little 5 iron third shot on the par 5 to about 15' after hacking out of the rough with my second shot.

After my shot, John K pointed out that I had played to the 15th pin, leaving a putt of maybe 40 yards.  3 putts later - nice bogey.

James Bennett

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 01:38:36 AM »
Bill

you reminded me that my host played to the wrong green at Pine Valley on #9 par 5.  The flag was not visible from rescue club length (it was hanging limply) and we all 'imagined' the hole was cut on the right hand green (caddies and players included).  No, no, no!  It was on the left hand green!  As we discovered perhaps 100 yards later.  Our host had an equitable solution to such a good shot, which none of his guests would disagree with.  Perhaps not 'rules of golf' compliant, but neither are mulligans.

PS  it had been raining, so the group(s) in front had pulled out, so no clues from them as to where the pin was!

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Doug Siebert

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 01:51:02 AM »
The first time I played TOC the tees on the 10th were on the very left side of the teebox and the flag was well on the left side of the green and I didn't notice it with all that overgrown gorse on that side.  I aimed right at the flag for #8 on the shared double green and hit a big hook.  My caddy and my dad both told me it was a great shot as the ball ended up rolling up onto the green.

I couldn't bring myself to admit I'd been aiming at the wrong place and missed the shot I was attempting, even after I two putted for an undeserved birdie, bringing me to one over for the round.  Karma came back to bite me though, I butchered 13 for an 8 and proceeded to find a way to bogey every single one of the remaining holes in as well.

When I returned 10 years later I was thinking about this on the tee, aimed at the correct place, and repeated the same hook, right into that gorse.  I had to retee, blocked the crap out of the shot and you can guess where it went.  Right at the 8th hole, ending up about 20 feet away from the pin, leaving me with the longest putt (not counting putts from off the green, of course) I've ever had anywhere, by far.
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Matt_Sullivan

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2007, 01:57:50 AM »
At St Andrews Beach I drove from 17 tee to (from memory) the first green! Tom, if you are reading, it was a great looking hole from the tee box!!

A groundsman on a lawnmower on 18 fairway waved me in the right direction
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 01:58:46 AM by Matt_Sullivan »

Robert_Walker

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2007, 07:02:55 AM »
Roberto's original quote (ill-transcribed by almost all) was:
"What estupid I am," not "What a stupid I am."  estupido is how stupid is spelled in Spanish. No Spanish word begins with "s" followed by a consonant. So what he wanted to express was "Que estupido soy." Which, when translated into English would be "How stupid I am."

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Kyle Harris

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 07:14:46 AM »
Cory Lewis and I played Morgan Hill on a blustery February day in 2006. After stepping to the 18th tee I lined up a shot down the first fairway and wondered to myself why someone would put the hole sign directly in line for the back tee.

Cory point about 50 yards right of where I was aimed and told me that was the 18th fairway...

wsmorrison

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2007, 07:35:55 AM »
One famous location for playing to the wrong green is at Pine Valley where some rookies mistakenly play to the 16th green from the 15th tee.   The 15th is a long par 5 while the errant tee shot to the clearly visible 16th green would play as a par 3 with a required 200-yard carry over water.  

James Bennett

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Re:"I am a stupid"
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2007, 07:42:18 AM »
At St Andrews Beach I drove from 17 tee to (from memory) the first green! Tom, if you are reading, it was a great looking hole from the tee box!!

A groundsman on a lawnmower on 18 fairway waved me in the right direction

Here is the #17 tee at St Andrews Beach (Gunnamatta).  The #17 fairway is to the right, although there appears to be some alignment of the tee to the left of this line.  To the left is #18 fairway (#18 tee can be seen on the hill in the left of the picture).  Beyond #18 fairway is the #1 green.


Following the GCA golf day at St Andrews Beach (March 2006 with Mark Ferguson), we discussed on GCA the opportunity to play from #17 tee to the holes such as #1, or perhaps #8 or #10.  Matt, you are the first that I have heard that actually played this hole.  Hope this brings back memories.


This is the view from #18 fairway looking back up to #17 tee.  The shot would be taken from under Matt Sullivan's inadvertent flight path of his drive.


Best regards to Shane too.

James B
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 07:42:54 AM by James Bennett »
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Darren_Kilfara

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Re:"I am a stupid"
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2007, 07:55:02 AM »
I did this in a tournament once at Crail (Balcomie) - played my approach at the first to the 12th green, to the left. No wonder I doubted the yardage so much...not the best way to start!

Cheers,
Darren

wsmorrison

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2007, 07:56:10 AM »
I've heard stories where golfers played from 9 fairway to 18 green and later 18 fairway to 9 green at Shinnecock Hills.  I think the approach from 9 fairway to 18 green would be awesome!  

Photo of 18 fairway (foreground) to 9 green uphill towards the clubhouse


Ted Kramer

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2007, 08:10:56 AM »
People do this all the time at Lido.
#4 and #8 run alongside one another out towards the bay.
I don't have a good pic, but it is pretty easy to pick out the wrong green if you're not familiar with the course.

-Ted

Andy Troeger

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2007, 08:17:30 AM »
Actually the only time I played nine at Ladera GC in Albuquerque I played the front nine and hit to the 18th green. #9 is a dogleg left with a pond to the right and beyond the landing area. The 18th green is on the other side of the pond straightaway from the tee about the same distance from the fairway as the 9th. I stuck a wedge to the 18th about 3 feet from the hole, hit a second ball as I was just out practicing, then noticed my green off to the left somewhere.

I putted out and went home :)

Matt_Sullivan

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2007, 09:21:46 AM »
James

Many thanks for the photos -- they do bring back memories. I should say I didn't play the entire hole. After the wave from the greenkeeper I hit a second ball down the 17th fairway. However when I walked over to pick up my first drive I did have a long look at what would have been the rest of the hole to the first green -- and it would have been a pretty good hole.

Shane sends her best

Matt

astavrides

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Re:"I am a stupid"
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2007, 05:10:01 PM »
Roberto's original quote (ill-transcribed by almost all) was:
"What estupid I am," not "What a stupid I am."  estupido is how stupid is spelled in Spanish. No Spanish word begins with "s" followed by a consonant. So what he wanted to express was "Que estupido soy." Which, when translated into English would be "How stupid I am."

Tommy Nacarato help me out here!



What you say makes sense, and I thank you for pointing it out because I had never deconstructed it that way.  Nonetheless, he still made a grammatical (and scoring) error that is fun to playfully quote.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 05:13:30 PM by astavrides »

rjsimper

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2007, 05:50:21 PM »
In a friendly match I once had about a 40 foot uphill putt for which I asked the flagstick be removed.  Near the hole, the hill crested and the last 5-10 feet were level or even downhill, making the hole appear very very slim (I rarely have the flagstick attended)

I hit my putt and lag it to 4-5 inches, a very good effort.  My playing partners the moment I hit the putt all begged for it to "go" and then when it came to rest, no praise was offered for my effort.

As I walked closer, I realized that I had putted to a dead brown spot 10 feet short of the actual hole, which looked remarkably similar from my spot 40 feet away.  

Steve Wilson

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2007, 10:35:14 PM »
At Brora in 2000, I ran into a member who was also a single and looking for a game.  In addition to reducing my green fees from 30 GBP to 5, he introduced me to Stableford.  I was having quite a good day and late in our second round I lined up my tee shot at the directional post on 14(?).   Getting over the top I hit my shot left of left into a herd of the cows doing their greenskeeping chores.  While the ball didn't strike any of them, it apparently startled them enough to send them mooing and bawling on a mini stampede.  My opponent/host then said in a perfectly clipped British accent.  "That's the most appalling shot I've ever seen, even the cattle are turning away in disgust."
I laughed but then protested, "It's not that bad, only about thirty yards off line."  It was then that he pointed out I had chosen a directional marker for one of the holes on the front nine.  I was a good sevently five yards off line and I somehow managed to make a par out of the whole mess.

On a course I have often called home, Preston Country Club in Kingwood, West Virginia, the second hole is a dogleg right but the green for the sixth hole is visible and so framed by a line of trees it is easy for unexperienced golfers.   The story goes that years ago on a foggy morning, a  foursome of golfers at Preston for the first time played from the second tee to the sixth green and  holed out without realizing their error.  They then went to play holes seven through nine and found themselves back at the clubhouse where the pro complimented them on how fast they had played the front nine.  I don't know how or even if they straighened that one out.  Nowadays there are more prominent and numbered hole diagrams that would make it difficult to miss most of the front nine.

Once playing at Cape Arundel with two other first timers, I, after a lengthy discussion among the the three of us, selected the wrong fairway.  It made for a damned long and unsuccessful recovery on that occasion.  

 
 
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RJ_Daley

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2007, 11:25:53 PM »
Steve, I did a similar thing last year at the Dixie Cup.  I came to 15 tee and spanked a pretty good tee ball up the left side just barely in FW.  The gent I was with who was a very keen player but a real jokster realised I was then looking ahead at the 10th green for my second, and thought I mentioned that I had made a mistake because the card said par 4 and I said, this has got to be a par 5 since I looked to be about 300 more yards out to the green.  He lazered it and told me a fictious number of about 250.  I hit one of my best 3 woods and landed just 50-75 yards shy of the 10th hole, and when I went up to my ball, realised my group had left me, and I was now in a completely stranger foursome approaching the 10th green!  I looked back and all of my 4some were peeing their pants laughing.  Damn if that wasn't one of my best shots of the day too.  I went back and took the sharp right second shot to the correct 15 green, missing it by alot...

But, that 15th at Bulls Bay is a weird hole because your eye just goes forward to the 10th green, and it is quite easy to miss the sharp right dogleg through narrow opening through a bit of waste and rough area.  I'd like to think I am not the only guy who has ever been jocked out on that one...  :-\ ::) ;D
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