Andrew, Thanks for mentioning York. I used to play it annually during the York Early Music Festival. It was always in good condition. Many preferred it to Fulford, another course always presented in first-class condition. For such a big county (with 170+ clubs) Yorkshire doesn't have many courses on the radar (Ganton, Alwoodley, Moortown and Lindrick being the best known). Other Yorkshire courses worth a visit if in the area would, for me, include Beverley (rough-and-ready common land course shared with bullocks and horses, but great fun), Hornsea (MacKenzie/Braid parkland by the sea), Cleveland (Yorkshire's oldest club and only links - very industrial), Harrogate (Sandy Herd - followed by tea at Betty's), Pannal (Herd - great scenery, strong 2-shotters), Scarborough North Cliff (good parkland course after you cross the road), Hallamshire (very good test, very compact site), Abbeydale (Fowler), Bingley St Ives (former public course and former European tour stop), Bradford (short but fascinating - Fowler?), Halifax (mad moorland), Headingley (Mac revamp in nice scenery), Huddersfield (Dunn, Herd, Fowler? - hilly, some excellent holes), Leeds (hilly, some fine holes), Otley (peaceful parkland), Ilkley (great fun over and around the River Wharfe), Sand Moor (part Mac, great views). Was it you who commended Shipley to me?