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Craig Van Egmond

Seve Retires
« on: July 16, 2007, 01:32:26 PM »

Craig Van Egmond

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 01:37:36 PM »

Seve was one of few golfers I watched that just blew me away with his artistry with the clubs.  Simply amazing.


redanman

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 02:08:54 PM »

Dean Paolucci

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 02:15:02 PM »
His artistry was a joy to watch.
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Ray Tennenbaum

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2007, 12:57:10 AM »
I was fortunate enough to interview him a couple of times.  the first thing I noticed was how idiomatic his English was.  and he was clearly quite vain -- and yet, remarkably, every bit as intelligent and intuitive as he was conceited.  

one of the most remarkable athletes I've ever seen or encountered.  I'm not sure we Americans will ever appreciate what he meant to European golf.

Ally Mcintosh

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 04:15:14 AM »
just as well though... probably my favourite golfer...

it didn't quite make it clear whether it is immediate or whether he's bowing out at carnoustie... hope it's the latter... there'll be some crowd following him if that's the case...

JohnV

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 09:33:19 AM »
One of the most enjoyable days I've spent at a golf tournament was following Seve, Sandy Lyle and Grant Waite around the TPC Sawgrass during a practice round in 1995.

Watching Seve practice shots around those greens was a lesson I'll never forget.  He and Waite were trying to help Lyle straighten out his swing.

Watching him woo the crowds (and particularly the women) was great also.  Definitely one of the better looking galleries I've seen. ;)

A showman and a great player.  He was the Arnold Palmer of European golf.  I'm sorry he quit so young.

JESII

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 09:51:23 AM »
I'm not sure we Americans will ever appreciate what he meant to European golf.

I have found this as well based on conversations, here and elsewhere, with Europeans...wish I had the chance to see more of him in his heyday...

Andrew Mitchell

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 10:26:48 AM »
I'm not sure we Americans will ever appreciate what he meant to European golf.

I have found this as well based on conversations, here and elsewhere, with Europeans...wish I had the chance to see more of him in his heyday...

Seve emerged at a time when European golf was in the doldrums.  His charisma and brilliant array of shots endeared him to all on this side of the pond, and he led the way for Faldo, Lyle, Olazabal, Langer and Woosnam to follow.

He was the first European to win the Open in ten years, and the first European to ever win the Masters.  He also convinced his colleagues that they could win the Ryder Cup.

Seve may not be the best golfer I've ever seen, but he's certainly the most exciting.
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Mark Pearce

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 11:24:30 AM »
Seve was a cavalier in a game dominated by rounheads.  He had a passion for the game that burnt as bright as his genius for it and his imagination and that passion showed through.  For all that Faldo, Langer, Lyle, Woosnam and later Olazabal were great golfers, Seve was the individual who by force of personality dragged European golf out of the mire it was in in the '70s.  As Andrew says Seve played a huge role in persuading his contemporaries that Europe could compete with America.  He clearly felt uncomfortable in the US and I suspect that for that reason Americans never really saw the charm that he brought to the game in Europe.

Much as I admire Faldo for what he achieved, Seve will always be my golfing hero.  I'm sad he's retired so young but pleased that we won't be subjected to the sad sight of him trying to recapture past glories.  I saw him play at Hoylake last year where, despite missing the cut he played respectably.  He still attracted large galleries and exuded charm all the way round, with his eldest son caddying for him.  I'm pleased that will be his last Open memory.
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George Pazin

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 11:37:46 AM »
...wish I had the chance to see more of him in his heyday...

I'll second this. I was actually planning on trying to get to a senior event if he was going to play.
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Jim_Kennedy

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 11:56:09 AM »
He needs a good going-into-retirement photo. We have Jack and Arnie on the bridge, maybe we can get a tip-of-the-visor from the car park out of Seve.  ;)
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JESII

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 01:10:25 PM »
He needs a good going-into-retirement photo. We have Jack and Arnie on the bridge, maybe we can get a tip-of-the-visor from the car park out of Seve.  ;)

I cannot think of a more contrived looking picture than the one of Nicklaus on the Swilican Bridge in '05...how far in advance did he think to put his foot up on the edge and pose like that? I'm guessing two years...

mikes1160

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 01:21:04 PM »
He needs a good going-into-retirement photo. We have Jack and Arnie on the bridge, maybe we can get a tip-of-the-visor from the car park out of Seve.  ;)

I cannot think of a more contrived looking picture than the one of Nicklaus on the Swilican Bridge in '05...how far in advance did he think to put his foot up on the edge and pose like that? I'm guessing two years...

Yeah, and rolling in that final birdie - how phony  ???

JESII

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2007, 01:32:10 PM »
Hey Mike, if you don't think that pose was the result of serious premeditation you're not watching with your eyes open...I'm a NIcklaus fan, so don't throw me in with the bashers on here, but please call a spade a spade...


Dan Boerger

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2007, 02:01:19 PM »
In reality, Seve's been retired from competiton for some time now. Too bad he wasn't able to keep his driver in play more often the past few years ... given his short game gifts, I would have bet he would have been more competitive in his later years.

I recall a story a caddie passed along about him at Merion once where his tee shot landed in the left side fairway bunkers. Evidently, given the lie, the only chance he had to really advance the ball was to play a sweeping draw literally out over Ardmore Avenue. He executed that amazing shot and went on to par the hole. I really used to admire how he just oozed self-confidence when he got on a roll.
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Tommy Williamsen

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2007, 02:34:21 PM »
I remember watching a match he played with Monty at Druids Glen in Ireland.  Monty hit every green and Seve hit none.  In fact he missed greens and fairways by thirty yards.  Monty won 1 up.  How Seve even stayed in the match was remarkable.
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cary lichtenstein

Re:Seve Retires
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2007, 02:46:54 PM »
I remember him losing in a playoff and walking down the fairway to the clubhouse crying. Absolutely unforgettable and so much passion. He was great for the game.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

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