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Michael Christensen

Pensacola CC & The Preserve - A Great Double!
« on: May 07, 2007, 05:21:30 PM »
Just wanted to give a shout out about the McBride get-together this past weekend.  Summer time has reached the south....high 80s in both Pensacola and in Vancleave, Miss with some humidity!

A good time was had by all......watching Steve Dana rip the ball off the tee was like being at a PGA event.  His work on both courses is very good.  The green complexes at The Preserve are phenomenal (even though some pin locations used by the staff are right on the edge of fairness for us hackers!)

Thanks to Bill for putting this together.....meeting Tiger B and Chris M from New Orleans was a treat.  Hope I can keep my form from Pensacola and discard my putting from The Preserve!

Jason Mandel

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Re:Pensacola CC & The Preserve - A Great Double!
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 07:22:02 PM »
It sounds like you guys had a great weekend.  I wanted to try and make it but I had just returned from Italy/Spain so it was out of the question this time around.

Michael C,
Glad to hear you regained your form, I promise I'll give you a chance to get your money back at Dixie Cup 3 or sooner if you get up north ;)

Jason
You learn more about a man on a golf course than anywhere else

contact info: jasonymandel@gmail.com

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Pensacola CC & The Preserve - A Great Double!
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2007, 10:32:14 PM »
It was great fun as well as meeting Michael, Chris and Steve. Pensacola Cc is a huge improvement over the prior version. I feel it is a very good course with really good fun short par 4's. The strong 4's and 3's are solid as well. The 5's are fun but only one is close to a real 3 hole. I think the test will be the maintenance now that the course has solid bones and good drainage and irrigation. It can be and should be the best in NW Florida, subject to good maintenance practices which is an issue throughout the area. I really enjoyed the Preserve. I have not seen the new Fazio course but this course is on par or better than Grand Bear which previously wore the Miss coast crown. Steve Dana and the pate team did a great job on both courses and deserve a big hand for improving a wonderful old gem and building a great new jewel for the gulf coast. Bill thanks for putting this together.

Bob_Huntley

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Re:Pensacola CC & The Preserve - A Great Double!
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 11:04:29 PM »
Pensacola and the Preserve?

These are three thousand miles apart. Are we talking about Carmel?

Bob

Bill_McBride

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Re:Pensacola CC & The Preserve - A Great Double!
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2007, 08:38:34 AM »
Bob, "The Preserve Golf Club" in Vancleave, Mississippi, is about 90 minutes west of Pensacola, Florida, just off I-10.  Both that course and Pensacola Country Club's new course were designed by Jerry Pate Design Group.  Last weekend, GCAers Tiger Bernhardt, Michael Christensen, and I played both courses with Steve Dana, Pate's lead architect on the projects.  Chris Moore of New Orleans, another GCAer, joined us for the round Saturday in Pensacola.

The Preserve here is so named because it's adjacent to and at times surrounded by a natural preserve of beautiful savannah and wetlands.  The uplands for the golf course was obtained through a land swap that created the savannah preserved for posterity.  It's a core course with no plans for housing in the future, as it is owned by the Palace Casino as an amenity for those gamblers who also like to play golf.

It was a pleasure to see Steve Dana shoot even par rounds on both courses.  Being both a strong player (Princeton golf team in the early '90s) and the architect gave Steve a strong background for good golf!

Both courses are well designed, with classic features built with low lying modern construction techniques and superb drainage design.  Pensacola suffered from poor drainage for many years.  The new course drains very well and is playing very firm at this point.  The greens at The Preserve (Mississippi version) are pretty wild, and, as Michael points out above, a couple of the pins were set right on the precipice of very steep contours.

It was a fun weekend in pretty warm and humid conditions.  I appreciate the guys who came to play, and thanks to Steve Dana for joining us - and showing us how it's supposed to be done.  8)

Chris Moore

Re:Pensacola CC & The Preserve - A Great Double!
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2007, 10:17:31 AM »
Bill:  Thanks for putting this outing together.  I am sorry I missed The Preserve - Mike's description of the greens makes it sound interesting.  PCC was truly a treat to play.  I loved the bunkering and the spines and pimples in the greens.  Thanks again.  

It was also great to meet some folks who had previously only been cyber-acquaintances.  I enjoyed meeting Tiger Bernhardt, and thought he was a pretty good guy until I saw him pull out a square driver.  

Mike:  you owe us all a chance to win our $5 back!

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