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The Mucci Group
I was thinking of the GCA discussion group while walking my dog at lunch, and I finally grasped what Pat Mucci’s style here reminded me of. Instead of The McLaughlin Group news discussion show with John Mclaughlin, Elanor Clift, Pat Buchanon, etc., here we have the Mucci Group with its panel of GCA regulars.
Pat Mucci: ISSUE ONE!!!!!! Hidden Creek vs Friars Head! Given a total of ten rounds to play on both courses how many rounds would you play on each. TOM PAUL?!!
Tom Paul: Well, that's a tough one Pat, seeing how much I absolutely love C&C courses and could go on and on about that …. (snip 5 minute ramble about how the architecture C&C influences world affairs)….so since they are both great courses that may someday bring about world peace, I’d play each of them 5 times.
Pat Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! TOMMY NACCARATO?!!
Tommy N.: The bunkering is beautiful on both courses, however I’d have to give the nod to Friar’s Head in that department, so I’d play 7 rounds at Friar’s Head and 3 at Hidden Creek.
Pat Mucci: WRONG!!!! MATT WARD?!!
Matt Ward: Well, since I’m not sure I could drive every par 4 at Friar’s Head since they don’t list the yardages on the scorecard, I’d have to play Hidden Creek 6 times and Friar’s Head 4 times.
Pat Mucci: WRONG!!!!! REDANMAN?!!
Redanman: Since I know I am the longest driver of the ball on the planet and am confident I could drive all of the par 4s and par 5s with a 2 iron and a ProV1x, or a 3 wood and an old wound balata ball, I’d have to say I’d play them both 5 times as well.
Pat Mucci: WRONG!!!! TOM HUCKABY?!!
Tom Huckaby: Man I was hoping if I asked nice enough I could play both of them 10 times.
Pat Mucci: WRONG!!!!! The correct answer is Hidden Creek 4, Friar’s Head 6.
The Mucci Group, coming soon to the GCA network.
Disclaimer: This post was written as a parody and in good fun with no malicious intent whatsoever. Hope nobody takes offense, because absolutely none was intended.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2003, 11:26:03 AM » |
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Brad,
I"ve never played Hidden Creek so I don't know my personal answer.
But, the concept that TEPaul is wrong sounds familiar, and correct.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2003, 11:50:19 AM » |
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Brad,
I like the way you think. We must meet someday.
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What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it? --Alistair Mackenzie--
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2003, 12:46:34 PM » |
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Brad, you forgot 'predictions' segment and at the end say, bye-bye.   |
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2003, 01:19:37 PM » |
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LOL! Eleanor Clift! Golf is for pompous, elitis.... WRONG! Robert Novak! Since they're both in liberal states that went to the Demo... WRONG! Clarence Page! I'll play whichever is willing to pay me repara..... WRONG! Pat Buchanon! Playing secular games on the Lord's day of worship is sacrelig.... WRONG! The correct answer is to play 17 holes every day on each so as never to play a "round" Bye-bye! |
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I don't always drink beer...but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2003, 03:17:11 PM » |
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Brad, are you sure this isn't the transcript from that last get together in the winter? I saw the pictures, therefore it must be true |
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2003, 07:04:45 PM » |
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I've actually been seriously thinking about this, and I can't find many bad holes in the backwards NGLA. Playing from 16 green to 15 green might be a little unfair, but it'd still be fun. Same with 8 green to 7 green. the only even arguably bad or unfair holes would be 11 green to 10 green, because of the slope of the green, and 9 green to 8 green, because of the carry on the third shot,but even that would be fun.
Could this be the best backwards course in the States?
Damn! that's a topic unto itself.
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I don't always drink beer...but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2003, 04:46:42 AM » |
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Classic. Great stuff, Brad. And I am such a whore... and so well-known... I gotta lie low for awhile. But it's cool, lately I've been acting as a pimp - getting others on courses - a lot as well. Somehow that is more fun...  TH |
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2003, 01:57:08 PM » |
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Brad Thanks for the honorable mention, but I am merely the longest driver on the planet with no lowest 3 lumbar discs, a bilateral lumbar radiculopathy, missing body parts and unable to carry more than 7 clubs for 9 holes who is a member of this group with some regularity.  I just do love thinking how long I could have been if I had been born in 1981 instead of 1951.  Love the concept, when is the first taping session? Should I wear a sportcoat or a suit? p.s. God do I love the new technology!!!!!!!!!!! (With apologies to Mark Fine for the E! points!!!!!!!!!)  By the way.....Have you seen my new 9.5* 983 K driver with the Fujikara shaft? Geoff, M Sweeny, ANTHONY and Corey Miller have. If I were 22 I could hit 400 yard drives, too. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2003, 08:13:14 PM » |
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Pat said:
".........so I don't know my personal answer."
Of course you don't Pat. There isn't a contributor to this website who doesn't know that.
Brad:
Pat Mucci has never known his personal answer, that's why he asks nothing but questions on here. One time Pat thought Heidi Klum asked him if he wanted to go to bed with her and Pat asked her if that was some kind of trick question.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2003, 10:14:59 AM » |
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ISSUE 2: Are the recent changes to the GCA Board a positive development in the discussion of course architecture?
MORT ZUCKERMAN!?
Anything that increases daily readership is good for the sit...
WRONG!!
DAN GROSSMAN!?
Well, if Shivas would get rid of that stupid picture of Freddie Prin....
WRONG!!
RICH GOODALE?!
It depends on whether the guys who re-did it are professionals or reinstated amat...
WRONG!!
PAT BUCHANON?!
There is a silent majority in this country that is deeply offended by the sacreligious use of the Lord's nam...
WRONG!!
TOM HUCKABY?!
Well, if the changes will get me onto Friar's He...
WRONG!!
The correct answer is that until MY picture is available as an option, the changes are incomplete.
BYE-BYE!
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I don't always drink beer...but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2003, 10:20:35 AM » |
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Shivas, I have had to to excercise an extreme level of restraint to keep myself from posting follow up ISSUES!!. I think we'd be on ISSUE 10!! by now if I hadn't. I haven't met most of these guys and I don't want to piss anyone off (well, most anyone). It could be an intersting thread to periodically update for amusement's sake. Cheers, Brad S. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2003, 10:26:33 AM » |
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Brad, I suggest you prepare to moderate the group at a certain Land of Enchantment session in Sept... All The Best, |
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A pessimist, Winston Churchill once said, sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. I choose optimism.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2003, 04:44:09 PM » |
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TEPaul, Brad,
I"ve never played Hidden Creek so I don't know my personal answer.
But, the concept that TEPaul is wrong sounds familiar, and correct.
The person who reads these posts to you must have missed the first part of the first sentence. I've never played Hidden Creek. Unlike some, I don't comment on courses that I've never seen. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2003, 06:31:26 PM » |
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"Unlike some, I don't comment on courses that I've never seen." Pat: What would it take to get you to stop commenting on courses you have seen? You know you're not supposed to comment on golf architecture unless you've played every hole in every conceivable temperature, wind condition, wind direction, rain, sleet, sun, overcast, course condition etc, etc. At that rate do you think you could manage about one post every other year or so? |
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2003, 06:59:08 PM » |
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TEPaul, I want to thank you for pointing out and comparing my modis operendi to that of Charles Blair MacDonald. It's very flattering, and I'm sure that you meant it that way |
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Brad Swanson
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2003, 03:56:44 PM » |
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Shivas! You stole Pat's avatar!!
Cheers,
Brad Swanson
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2006, 12:20:47 PM » |
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2006, 12:39:53 PM » |
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Funny stuff... and accurate up to a point.
Unlike McLaughlin (my favorite defrocked priest) Patrick not only points out that you are WRONG!, but how WRONG! you are, what lead to your WRONG! thinking and, from a careful reading of the previous 100 threads you contributed to, that your most recent post is simply another in a whole line of WRONG! thinking.
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Measure twice... Putt once.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2006, 12:43:54 PM » |
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Let's get Pat on Hardball with Chris Mathews, that could be quite funny
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2006, 08:54:20 PM » |
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this is very funny The funny thing is that everybody is still wrong... oops, I probably shouldn't have said that...I know why... It's because I'm WRONG!!  From now on I am just going to  |
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2006, 09:16:52 PM » |
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There was a fantastic Saturday Night Live skit that parodied the McLaughlin Group.
My school has this email conference called Town Meeting, where we sometimes debate stuff, and I feel like the mediator/supreme leader of the discussion at times, until the faculty manager of the conference steps in and shuts all of us down.
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2006, 07:17:12 AM » |
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There was a fantastic Saturday Night Live skit that parodied the McLaughlin Group.
With Dana Carvey as McLaughlin? An even better one called the Sinatra Group with the late, great Phil Hartman playing the Chairman of the Board. And Sting playing Billy Idol. (Side story: One of my co-workers played with the Rebel Yell and his dad at a father/son tournament in Florida several years ago.) |
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Measure twice... Putt once.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2006, 08:13:03 AM » |
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This a hilarious post by Brad Swanson and some great followups by Shivas.
LOL.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2008, 05:01:47 PM » |
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NEXT ISSUE! |
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2008, 05:19:22 PM » |
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Two recommendations:
1. We need Pat's dialogue in BOLD COLOR
2. Small addition regarding how to split ten rounds: "10 rounds played at a course indicating metaphysical perfection, 0 rounds at a course representing abject moral turpitude on the part of the designer."
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Trying to appreciate 99.9% of GCA.
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2008, 07:19:27 PM » |
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This is quite funny, and frankly very truthful. Pat is very quick to tell you how wrong you are, but rarely, if ever, gives reasons why he is right. Ever notice that? I agree with Tom Paul, he doesn't know the answers, so he asks questions, and if your answer doesn't match his thought, it must be wrong. Stay away from that election stuff. But I think for fun we should have an election on here for positions like: Moral Minority Leader (Shivas certainly for his defense of the Cheater line) Vocal Majority Leader (likely Pat Mucci) Co-Chairs of the Committee to Establish Design Credit (Tom Paul and Tom MacWood) and perhaps Chairman of the Committee for the Proper Use of Colored Fonts (Myself of course) |
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2008, 08:41:11 PM » |
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"This is quite funny, and frankly very truthful. Pat is very quick to tell you how wrong you are, but rarely, if ever, gives reasons why he is right. Ever notice that? I agree with Tom Paul, he doesn't know the answers, so he asks questions, and if your answer doesn't match his thought, it must be wrong. " Here's a really unusual newsflash for GOLFLCLUBATLASERS! I'm wrong when I say Pat Mucci doesn't know the answers to the questions he asks. I said that remark quoted above as a joke and the fact is none of you will ever be able to figure out when I'm joking about Pat Mucci or telling the truth, and that is the way it should be. Pat Mucci knows exactly what the answers to his questions are, but the fact is he likes the art of argumentation a whole lot better than some confirmation of his opinions which he sees no real reason to state when he asks questions on here. |
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2008, 09:58:46 PM » |
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C'mon Tom, Anyone who doesn't see the inherent beauty and greatness of the 14th and 16th holes at Sand Hills is what?
It's a good thing Bill Coore hopped that fence.
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If we have never had a bad lie we are not likely to appreciate a good one, moreover, the ability to play from a bad lie differentiates between a good player and a bad one. We might also remark that good and bad lies differentiate between good sportsmen and bad.
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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2008, 08:30:40 AM » |
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C'mon Tom, Anyone who doesn't see the inherent beauty and greatness of the 14th and 16th holes at Sand Hills is what?
It's a good thing Bill Coore hopped that fence.
Adam, are you absolutely certain that Bill Coore's request to Dick Youngscap to purchase additional land had anything to do with the 16th hole ? The 14th hole ?
How are # 14 and # 16 "great" holes ?
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2008, 08:36:00 AM » |
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This is quite funny, and frankly very truthful. Pat is very quick to tell you how wrong you are, but rarely, if ever, gives reasons why he is right. Ever notice that?
If you're wrong, and I demonstrate that you're wrong, there's no need or reason for me to prove that I'm right.I agree with Tom Paul, he doesn't know the answers, so he asks questions, and if your answer doesn't match his thought, it must be wrong.
Perhaps Bob Huntley can enlighten you on my modis operendi when asking questions on this site.
TEPaul's above response is a hint. |
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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2008, 10:50:21 PM » |
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Pat Mucci: Issue ONE!!! CB Macdonald is the goldliest of the Golden Age Architects and NGLA his masterpiece, as Da Vinci had Mona Lisa, as Michelangelo had the Chapel—Wayno!
Wayne Morrison: Flynn is the name you’re looking for--
Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! Tom Macwood!
Tom Macwood; Most of us are stubborn by nature. Once we get an idea in our head it’s very difficult to remove it, at least that has been my experience—
Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! David Moriarity!
Moriaity: While my research is in the early stages, my preliminary view is that many holes constructed—I mean designed—I mean laid out—in the Golden Age were based upon the conceptual underpinnings of the great holes, as understood by Macdonald—
Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! R.J. Daley
Daley: Facts developed from painstaking research and cold mathematical figuring and formulation from the ancients like Copernicus through Cassini and the moderns, juxtatposed and at odds with dogma by a powerful institution like the Church—
Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! Peter Pollotta
Pollotta: RJ - good thoughts, as always. Tom, David, Wayne—thanks gents, appreciate your comments— Charlie Parker's advice to improvising jazz musicians—
Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! Sean Arble
Arble: Now that’s a good looking bunker—
WRONG!!!!!!!! Shivas
Shivas: Skynard always closes with Freebird—
Mucci: WRONG!!!!!!!! JakaB
John Kavanaugh: Gillette Silver asked me to pass this on—
WRONG!!!!!!!! Tom Paul
Tom Paul: I was in a G-5 en route to the Bahamas--
Mucci: Not that story again!!!!!!!! That's all the time we have
Prediction:
When your facts are wrong, your premise is wrong and your conclusions are wrong.
Bye- Bye!!
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2008, 11:33:55 AM » |
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This is quite funny, and frankly very truthful. Pat is very quick to tell you how wrong you are, but rarely, if ever, gives reasons why he is right. Ever notice that?
If you're wrong, and I demonstrate that you're wrong, there's no need or reason for me to prove that I'm right.I agree with Tom Paul, he doesn't know the answers, so he asks questions, and if your answer doesn't match his thought, it must be wrong.
Perhaps Bob Huntley can enlighten you on my modis operendi when asking questions on this site.
TEPaul's above response is a hint.Actually, you do have to prove you are right. At least in the US Legal System, the burden of proof lies on the prosecution (the one making the statement, in this case). So, assuming this situation is like that one, you are the one who needs to prove that you are, indeed, correct. BTW, I am aware that you know MOST of the answers to the questions you ask, but it still stands that you do not reveal them to anyone. |
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