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Marty Bonnar

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Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« on: March 09, 2007, 06:46:07 PM »
I must confess to getting a tad BORED with pretty constant reference to MINIMALISM in this discussion group. It often comes over as if it's some kind of SPECIAL thing which should be regarded with zealous reverence.

PANTS!

It's a style. It's a mode. It's only another EXPRESSION of DESIGN.

As young dogs in proper (ahem!) architectural school, we were exposed to the entire gamut of architectural language - and, boy, is it a language of near Sanskritian complexity.

Wikipedia's simplistic listing:

Neolithic architecture 10,000 BC-3000 BC
Ancient Egyptian architecture 3000 BC–373 AD
Sumerian architecture 5300 BC–2000 BC
Classical architecture 600 BC-323 AD
Ancient Greek architecture 776 BC-265 BC
Roman architecture 753 BC–663 AD
Byzantine architecture 527 (Sofia)-1520
Romanesque architecture 1050-1100
Norman architecture 1074-1250
Gothic architecture
Early English Period c.1190—c.1250
Decorated Period c.1290–c.1350
Perpendicular Period c.1350–c.1550
Brick Gothic c.1350–c.1400
Tudor style architecture 1485–1603
Manueline 1495 to 1521 (reign)
Spanish Colonial style 1520s–c.1550
Elizabethan architecture (b.1533 – d.1603)
Palladian architecture 1616–1680 (Jones)
English Baroque 1666 (Great Fire)–1713 (Treaty of Utrecht)
Sicilian Baroque 1693 earthquake–c.1745
Gothic Revival architecture 1760s–1840s
List of Gothic Revival architecture
Neoclassical architecture
Adam style 1770 England
Empire (style) 1804 to 1814, 1870 revival
Italianate 1802
Egyptian Revival architecture 1809–1820s, 1840s, 1920s
American Empire (style) 1810
Biedermeier 1815–1848
Tudorbethan architecture 1835–1885
Victorian architecture 1837 and 1901 UK
Jacobethan 1838
Queenslander (architecture) 1840s–1960s
Australian architectural styles
Romanesque Revival architecture 1840–1900 USA
Neo-Grec 1848 and 1865
Second Empire 1865 and 1880
 Queen Anne Style architecture 1870–1910s England & USA
National Park Service Rustic 1872–1916 USA
Shingle Style or stick style 1879-1905 New England
Chicago school (architecture) 1880s and 1890 USA
Neo-Byzantine architecture 1882–1920s American
Jungenstil 1888 to 1911 German Art Nouveau
Modernisme 1888 to 1911 Catalonian Art Nouveau
American Craftsman 1890s–1930 USA, California & east
Richardsonian Romanesque 1880s USA
City Beautiful movement 1890–1900s USA
Early Colonial Revival architecture 1890s–1915
Mission Revival Style architecture 1894-1936
Pueblo style 1898-1990s
Prairie Style 1900–1917 USA
Heliopolis style 1905–ca. 1935 Egypt
Futurist architecture 1909 Europe
Expressionist architecture 1910–ca. 1924
Amsterdam School 1912–1924 Netherlands
Spanish Colonial Revival style 1915–1940 USA
Bauhaus 1919–1930s
Mediterranean Revival Style 1920s–1930s USA
Art Deco 1925–1940s Europe & USA
List of Art Deco architecture
Modern movement 1927–1960s
International style (architecture) 1930–today Europe & USA
Streamline Moderne 1930–1937
Nazi architecture 1933-1944 Germany
Stalinist architecture 1933–1955 USSR
Bauhaus 1919–1930s
Usonian 1936–1940s USA
New towns 1946-1968 United Kingdom
Mid-century modern 1950s California, etc.
Googie architecture 1950s USA
Brutalist architecture 1950s–1970s
Metabolist Movement 1959 Japan
Arcology 1970s-today
Postmodern architecture 1980s
Deconstructivism 1982–today
Memphis Group 1981-1988
Blobitecture 2003–today

See?

We've come a long way, Charlie Brown. Loosen your belts. Take off the Wayfarers. Turn off your minds, relax and float downstream, even. It's my contention that there's plenty of good golf courses out there which could be described in the context of the above terms and also not be crap to play. Not everyone in the world is as tasteful as you!

The one constant in ALL DESIGN? STYLES CHANGE.

Live with it. Love all. Serve all. Eh?

In the evergreen words of a fellow of these airts'n'pairts. It's a great big world, etc, etc.....

FBD.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Garland Bayley

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Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 06:55:49 PM »
You prefer perhaps Texas oilmanism or Arabic Shiekism?

 :)
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Peter Pallotta

Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 07:12:24 PM »
Martin,

You forgot one.


Steve Curry

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Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 09:08:14 PM »
misunderstood...

RJ_Daley

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Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2007, 12:21:07 AM »
I don't see any Trullian architecture in this obviously incomplete list.  ::)
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Bill_McBride

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Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2007, 12:50:10 AM »
What golf course would reflect "Brutalist" architecture?

Jim Nugent

Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2007, 01:41:02 AM »
Quote
I don't see any Trullian architecture in this obviously incomplete list.

RJ, were many other cops like you when you were on the force?  

Forrest Richardson

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Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 12:33:28 PM »
— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re:Minimalism? - nah, Scrooge McDuckianism
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2007, 12:45:34 PM »
Martin,

Thanks for posting that.  A good read and reminder that design has had many movements.  In architecture, each probably has proponents of preservation of good examples.  The mainstream on gca only sees one style worthy of preservation, which is truly shortsighted.

Forrest,

Thanks for the reminder of that thread.

Not to steal this thread, but I have always wondered if a new style of movement can be consciously created, or if it evolves from either construction technolgy combined with various architects trying to solve a specific site related problem.  An example would be how steel beams lead to the Mies style of architecture.

Another example would be the differences in music of the Beatles or Chicago who sounded quite different when they were just making music for the fun of it and later, when they started listening to critics who suggested that their music was "important" and "needed to have a message" to be even more important.

I know I was a bit self conscious and worried about how my ideas might compare to other designers on my first big resort design, and think it showed.  I think my best work comes when I don't really give a damn about the big picture, and just stick to the situation at hand and let the style come out to what the style comes out to.  
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

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