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Tom Roewer

Golfweek Top 100
« on: March 08, 2007, 11:37:24 AM »
I know that now everyone can exhale as so many on here live and die by these rankings. (teehee)  i at least find AGN falling from 3 to 10 interesting and deserved,  and love that The Dunes Club got such good press.  Nine Holers Live!!!!!  
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JESII

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 11:42:21 AM »
If AGN really fell to 10, and there is any trend from the top line courses that actually have aggressively removed trees, we shall soon see how influential these rankings are (outside of the resort and daily fee environment).

Haven't yet seen the list, is there a link?
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Tom Roewer

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 11:48:01 AM »
You can simply google Golfweek and scroll down its page to get the lists if you don't get a copy.
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Andy Troeger

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 11:49:33 AM »
It does not appear that it has been posted online yet, still the 2006 lists on the website.
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Tom Roewer

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 11:53:35 AM »
Sorry Andy I just figured they would renew it on the web with the issue out.
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Andy Troeger

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 11:56:47 AM »
No such luck yet at least, and that's understandable as one would think there should be an advantage to subscribing...unfortunately my issues are being forwarded from Indiana so I won't get it for about a week :(
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Brad Klein

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 01:42:09 PM »
Dedicated GW issue, dated March 10, with 29-pages on architecture, including cover story, should be arriving now by mail (mine just did). We seem to be having some problems posting the new lists on the golfweek.com Website owing to whatever, but we should have it resolved in a day or two.
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JESII

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 01:43:45 PM »
Thanks Brad.
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C. Squier

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 01:51:59 PM »
<----- Impatiently rethinking the decision to give my wife our only mailbox key.  
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Glenn Spencer

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 03:52:59 PM »
What is AGN?
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rjsimper

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 03:56:20 PM »
My guess is

Au Gusta National

Though I've never seen it abbreviated that way :)
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JR Potts

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM »
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.
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Steve Lapper

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 04:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

As a former "Second City" MSA citizen myself, why get your nose in a snit?? Let's call them both even at 50th! Neither one produce much in the way of architectural excitement, do they?


PS...be happy the Big Ten ranks higher than the ACC (for now!)  ;D
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JR Potts

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 04:10:43 PM »
Quote from: Steve Lapper on March 08, 2007, 04:06:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

As a former "Second City" MSA citizen myself, why get your nose in a snit?? Let's call them both even at 50th! Neither one produce much in the way of architectural excitement, do they?


PS...be happy the Big Ten ranks higher than the ACC (for now!)  ;D

I would agree with the assessment on the architecture.  But the large jumps and falls of these two courses are quite telling about the reliability of these rankings.  I like Olympia Fields...but Olympia Fields couldn't hold Medinah's jock.

And is the Golfweek ranking all about the architecture?


PS - Got to go watch the Illini play the Nittney Cats.  If we lose this game we should be excommunicated from the Big Ten (Eleven)
« Last Edit: March 08, 2007, 04:12:39 PM by Ryan Potts »
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Kyle Harris

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 04:17:39 PM »
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Steve Lapper on March 08, 2007, 04:06:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

As a former "Second City" MSA citizen myself, why get your nose in a snit?? Let's call them both even at 50th! Neither one produce much in the way of architectural excitement, do they?


PS...be happy the Big Ten ranks higher than the ACC (for now!)  ;D

I would agree with the assessment on the architecture.  But the large jumps and falls of these two courses are quite telling about the reliability of these rankings.  I like Olympia Fields...but Olympia Fields couldn't hold Medinah's jock.

And is the Golfweek ranking all about the architecture?


PS - Got to go watch the Illini play the Nittney Cats.  If we lose this game we should be excommunicated from the Big Ten (Eleven)

You lost one last year.  ;)

Won't happen this year, though.  :(
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Alex_Wyatt

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 04:57:20 PM »
My copy's at home in the mailbox...can somebody tell us the top 10s (or 20s) for each list? Thanks.
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Mike Hendren

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2007, 05:19:17 PM »
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.
Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.
I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

Ryan, if you are correct and dozens are off base, perhaps you can analyze the relative merits of both courses.  I'd be interested in your insight.  Thanks.

Mike
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Jeff Doerr

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2007, 08:02:19 PM »
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

It would be interesting to see how much statisical variance there is from 40 to 57. My guess is not too much on the scale. I'm still one who think there is not much difference between #80 and #120...

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Jason Mandel

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 08:50:11 PM »
I only glanced over the list, but have a big question for the modern list.  Where is BULLS BAY???  If that course is not in the Top 100 modern courses that there is something seriously wrong with the ratings.  I just played BB this year so I don't know if it has been in previous rankings, but if not that place is one heck of a hidden gem.

Jason
« Last Edit: March 08, 2007, 08:50:41 PM by Jason Mandel »
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Lawrence Largent

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 08:56:46 PM »
I find it interesting that the Crenshaw Coore courses are taking a plunge. Frairs Head went down and Cuscowilla went down about 25 places.


Lawrence
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Jason Mandel

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2007, 09:14:38 PM »
I find it interesting that Augusta National is #10 on the list.  I mean I know the trees are a problem there but aren't the panelists taking things a little TOO far.  How many of these panelists are actually PLAYING augusta for it to drop.  

Is it possible that some of these courses are being rated without people actually having played the course?

Congrats to Merion for getting up to #4, passing Oakmont for the 1st time in a very long time.  I've never played Oakmont so I can't compare the two courses, but I was a little suprised when I saw that.

Anyone want to take bets on how many pages this thread goes, I'll take a consevative guess with 14  ;D

Jason
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Paul Richards

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 09:15:02 PM »
linky????

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Mike Erdmann

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2007, 09:37:07 PM »
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

FWIW, those are last year's rankings.  The new 2007 list has Medinah dropping to 64 from 57 and Olympia Fields moving up to 39 from 41.
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Mark Bourgeois

Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2007, 09:47:07 PM »
Should ANGC move from the classic to modern list?
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JR Potts

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Re:Golfweek Top 100
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2007, 09:57:12 PM »
Quote from: Mike_Erdmann on March 08, 2007, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: Ryan Potts on March 08, 2007, 03:57:26 PM
That ranking is an abomination.

Medinah goes from 40 to 57 and Olympia Fields goes from 54 to 41.

I'm going to wipe my @%% with that ranking right now.

FWIW, those are last year's rankings.  The new 2007 list has Medinah dropping to 64 from 57 and Olympia Fields moving up to 39 from 41.

Thank you.  My point is solidified.

Olympia Fields....39.....too funny.
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