[David Stamm]

Happy Holidays gentlemen! I played this course yesterday w/ my friend Jon Spaulding and I thought you all might like to see the photo's. Jon, as always played great, first time there and he shoots a 71 from the tips. Makes me want to quit! Just kidding, Jon! It's always a pleasure to watch you play. Just don't hold my terrible in-the-middle-of-swing-changes mode I'm in against me. Anyway's this is one of RTJ sr.'s first courses and was built in 1961. In my personal research it seems RTJ claimed it was 1959, but I don't think it makes a big difference. As claimed by him, this course was instrumental in him getting other projects, as he referred new clients to this course. The course is used for USGA qualifying in the area. It's 7077 yards to a par of 71. The membership is very friendly and the place has wonderful ambiance. It just feels like pure golf. So enjoy the photo's gents, especially you Bob Huntley, since I know you were asking about this course the last time I played it, and I blew it in regards to taking photo's. Again, Happy Holidays gentleman!  

[Jon Spaulding]

Not too much action here....maybe you should mention Carl's presumed house on #14 and how we didn't see him!

Merry Christmas, off to church in a bit...... to pray for a draw!

[Bill_McBride]

Suggested Christmas gift for the Pauma Valley super:
a chain saw!  

[David Stamm]

Not too much action here....maybe you should mention Carl's presumed house on #14 and how we didn't see him!

Merry Christmas, off to church in a bit...... to pray for a draw!

Say one for me!

[Michael Dugger]

David,

I appreciate you photographic efforts, nice work.  Pauma Valley looks like a good solid fundamental course for the local community.  I wouldn't expect any less from R.T. Jones Sr.

I can imagine this being a poster child for low maintenance hazards.  Some nice views, a little elevation change.  I bet this course offers a good, challenging, albeit it uninspired, game.

It is a place like this which the Doak Scale attempts to address.  You wouldn't travel from afar to play, but it need not hang its' head.  

[Bob_Huntley]

Gentlefolk,

Those of you that are being somewhat negative in their feelings about Pauma Valley, should not take these photos as the be all and end all of the course.

I haven't been there in many a year but found it resistant to scoring, interesting and a sound test. What one cannot gather from the visual is the almost sensual aroma of orange blossoms and the absence of civilization. If I lived in San Diego county I would choose to be a member.

Bob

[Bill_McBride]

Gentlefolk,

Those of you that are being somewhat negative in their feelings about Pauma Valley, should not take these photos as the be all and end all of the course.

I haven't been there in many a year but found it resistant to scoring, interesting and a sound test. What one cannot gather from the visual is the almost sensual aroma of orange blossoms and the absence of civilization. If I lived in San Diego county I would choose to be a member.

Bob

Bob, a lot of the courses in the Santa Barbara area were built in former lemon groves.  You can still walk down a few OB lines and whack at a lemon or two.  It releases that wonderful nectar you are talking about.

[David Stamm]

Gentlefolk,

Those of you that are being somewhat negative in their feelings about Pauma Valley, should not take these photos as the be all and end all of the course.

I haven't been there in many a year but found it resistant to scoring, interesting and a sound test. What one cannot gather from the visual is the almost sensual aroma of orange blossoms and the absence of civilization. If I lived in San Diego county I would choose to be a member.

Bob

I couldn't agree more, Bob. This was my second time playing it and I enjoyed even more on my second go around. I think the course falls under the "whole is greater than the sum of the parts" category. While it doesn't visually wow you, it provides a very solid test and a player would not easily get tired of it. The photo's don't pick it up, but there is quite a bit of undulation in the fairways, as Jon can attest. The greens are interesting and were some of the best conditioned I've ever played. The course is very solid. I would agree w/ you Bill, a little tree maintenance would go a long way here, but I don't think it's stifeling the way it sit's now.

[David Stamm]

Here's a few photo's from the club's website, which are better quality. Note the fairway movement I was mentioning.....

[rjsimper]

I am with both Mr. Stamm and Mr. Huntley on this one - I've played Pauma Valley only once but I found it to be better than David's photographs suggest (and nothing against you, David - mid-day lighting is the worst...

There's a bit of mystique about Pauma Valley as well, as the ride to get there is a bit of a trek, and one that rewards you with a course that is, especially given the work being done in that era, near the front of the class.  

[Bob_Huntley]

David,

Help, double clicked on the small cross and went up to "show picture".....and nothing happened. What do I do now?

Bob

[David Stamm]

Hmmmm... Not sure Bob. Are you not able to see any photos?

[Craig Disher]

David,
I can't see the pictures either. I notice you're using photobucket - is there a limitation on the number of views permitted?

[Bob_Huntley]

Craig,

Thanks, I thought it was my lack of computer skills.

Bob

[David Stamm]

I don't know Craig. Are the first set of photo's I took at the top showing? The second set are from the club's website.

[Craig Disher]

Same problem. I use firefox but when I loaded the thread in ie the pictures weren't available either.

I believe the set of photos from the club's website are also displayed using photobucket.

[Craig Disher]

I've loaded this picture directly from the Pauma Valley's website. It looks like the problem must be in photobucket.

[rjsimper]

Hmmm- I see them (both the PV website and the ones David posted...) - I am on Internet Explorer 6.0.

[Tom Roewer]

They played "Golf Challenge" there.  It was a series of better ball matches with Palmer / Player pairing against different teams.  

[Lynn_Shackelford]

It should be noted that you are not playing the original design.  There was a major flood during some El Nino year and some holes have been altered.  Don't know which ones though.  I think it was in the 70's.
If they cleared out some of the trees on the course, the good views would be even better.  I am betting that doesn't happen.  Word was Palmer and Nicklaus loved it at first site.

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