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Craig Sweet

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Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« on: November 21, 2006, 05:31:04 PM »
I can only imagine the golf courses this man would have designed if he had chosen GCA instead of directing film...

His designs would be multi-layered...like an onion...lots of options....and he probably would not stay with any particuliar formula....

Tim Leahy

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 07:36:27 PM »
I can only imagine the golf courses this man would have designed if he had chosen GCA instead of directing film...
His designs would be multi-layered...like an onion...lots of options....and he probably would not stay with any particuliar formula....

Technically he was a golf course designer. In the movie MASH he had to build the tee box/helicopter pad that Hawkeye and Trapper were hitting balls off when they got their orders to go to Japan to treat the Senator's son. That movie was shot in the Malibu hills to simulate Korea. I love trivia. :D
I love golf, the fightin irish, and beautiful women depending on the season and availability.

Andrew Summerell

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2006, 07:46:10 PM »
His designs would be relatively inconsistent, with a few courses being quite disappointing, peppered every few years with an absolute flash of genius.

As someone who rarely sticks to a script & often asks actors to do what they felt like on the spot, he would be a GCA that did most of his work in the field & not on paper.

He would also route courses where the holes could be played in 4 or 5 different orders.

Tim Leahy

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2006, 07:49:35 PM »
He would also route courses where the holes could be played in 4 or 5 different orders.

Actually that would be more like Quentin Tarrantino 8)
I love golf, the fightin irish, and beautiful women depending on the season and availability.

Bill Shamleffer

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2006, 08:01:47 PM »
Even the courses that did not quite work, still would have some interesting holes and would not include any cliches of architecture.
“The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.”  Damon Runyon

Andrew Summerell

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2006, 12:09:40 AM »
He would also route courses where the holes could be played in 4 or 5 different orders.

Actually that would be more like Quentin Tarrantino 8)

Yeah, but Quentin's courses would be much more brutal.

Michael Robin

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 01:41:22 AM »
There are a lot of similarities between the Director's challenge and that of the GCA.

1) You are at the mercy of the quality of your script/site. If you have a great piece of material to work with, you can do something quite special.
If not, you really have to draw upon all of your skills and your whole bag of tricks to overcome the material's shortcomings, and give the audience/player a worthwhile ride.

2) You have to select the appropriate tools to tell the story. What do you do to create tension, to exhilarate, to make one cry, to make one want a repeat performance. To set the mood, to vary the pace, to again take people on a ride.

3) You have to have a significant sensibility to design. You must map out the journey for the audience/player to take. You must locate the most appropriate esthetic for your material. Does it want to break new ground, does it want to be a throwback to another time, does it want to incorporate ideas from the past or boldly go where no man has gone before?

4) Each scene is the equivalent of a new hole. There is a beginning, a middle and an end to each. They should propel you into the next scene/hole. There are some that are more important than others, but they all have a role in the finished product. There should be no boring  
scenes or holes in the journey.

5) Your work will last longer than you will.

Finally, it is your ass that is on the line. There may be hundreds of people who work on the project, but in the end you stand alone in the success or failure, and it has a huge impact on what your next project is or if you even are to be trusted again with someone else's money to come up with a successful creation.

Altman was a pioneer, a maverick. He was successful and a failure, but never boring. And he did it his way and never left anything in the bag. May he rest in peace.  

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2006, 01:51:24 AM »
Michael,
What do you know! ;)

Thanks for the quick synopsis. It shows just how brilliant film-making can really be.

I'm going to miss Altman. Not only M*A*S*H, but the Player and Nashville are favorites. I liked it how he could take certain element of the subject and more or less show the hyprocracies of those elements. For example, Prete-porte. While most hated that film, I find some of the characters to be completely enthralling. There is just so much going on, so many stories or characters. M*A*S*H is another. Has anyone ever taken the time and just tried to pay attention to Radar's character throughout the movie? He doesn't have a single line, but he's always got something going on and Altman would pan the camera on him when breaking from a scene!

What I really want to sit down and talk to you about sometime is Orson Wells, my hero!
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Michael Robin

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Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 01:56:06 AM »
You mean one of the Dead Guys from the Golden Age?
« Last Edit: November 22, 2006, 01:57:17 AM by Michael Robin »

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Robert Altman Golf Course Designer
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2006, 02:01:36 AM »
EXACTLY!