France and Netherlands aerials

[Mark_Rowlinson]

I had a glance at Europe on Google Earth.  Very little of France is in high resolution, so no Morfontaine, no Pau, no Hardelot, no Le Touquet etc.  I found many postal addresses totally misleading.  Where that is the case I've given geographical co-ordinates which seem to please Google.  Google Earth often led me up the garden path in the Netherlands, so there are many co-ordinates here.  Netherlands is well fixed for resolution, so I've included as many old or older layouts as I could find. I was pleased to find Domburgsche - a links I did not know about.

FRANCE

St Cloud (Colt 1911)
http://www.golfsaintcloud.com/
60 Rue du 19 Janvier, 92380 Garches, France

St Germain (Colt 1920)
http://www.golfstgermain.com/
48°55'6.19"N  2° 3'29.70"E

Golf National (Hubert Chesneau 1990)
http://www.golf-national.com/
2 Avenue du Golf, 78280 Guyancourt, France

Médoc (Bill Coore 1989)
http://www.golf-du-medoc.com/
Chemin de Courmateau, 33290 Louens, France

Chantilly (Simpson 1909)
49°12'20.81"N  2°28'45.18"E

International Club du Lys (Simpson 1929)
http://www.golf-lys-chantilly.com/
Rond-Point du Grand Cerf, 60260 Lamorlaye, France

Sperone (Trent Jones 1990)
http://www.sperone.com/
Domaine de Sperone, 20169 Bonifacio, France

Fontainebleau (Simpson/Hawtree 1909)
http://www.golfdefontainebleau.org/
48°23'38.84"N  2°40'47.66"E

Ozoir-la-Ferrière (1926)
http://www.matsiya.eu/golf-ozoir-la-ferriere/
48°45'48.21"N  2°39'6.67"E

Bâle G & CC (Limburger 1926)
http://www.swissgolfnetwork.ch/
47°32'22.49"N  7°28'53.07"E

Racing Club de France, La Boulie (Park? Date?)
http://www.racingclubdefrance.org/
La Boulie, 78000 Versailles, France

NETHERLANDS

Kennemer (Colt 1910)
http://www.kennemergolf.nl/welkom.php
Kennemerweg 78, 2042 XT Zandvoort, Netherlands

Domburgsche (1914 links course)
http://www.domburgschegolfclub.nl/
Schelpweg 26, 4357 BP Domburg, Netherlands

Toxandria (Morrison 1928)
http://www.toxandria.nl/
Veenstraat 89, 5124 NC Molenschot, Netherlands

Rosendaelsche (1895)
http://www.rosendaelsche.com/
Apeldoornseweg 450, 6816 NM Arnhem, Netherlands

Twentsche (1926)
http://www.twentschegolfclub.nl/
Almelosestraat 17, 7495 TG  Ambt-Delden, Netherlands

De Dommel (Colt/Steel 1928)
http://www.gcdedommel.nl/
Zegenwerp 12, 5271 NC St Michielsgestel, Netherlands

Eindhovensche (Colt 1930)
http://www.eindhovenschegolf.nl/
Eindhovenseweg 300, 5553 VB Valkenswaard, Netherlands

Zuid Limburgse (Hawtree 1956)
http://www.zlgolf.nl/
50°47'32.89"N  5°53'43.62"E

Noord-Nederlandsche (Campbell 1950, Pennick/Steel 1987)
http://www.nngcc.nl/
Pollselaan 5, 9756 CJ Glimmen, Netherlands

Koninklijke Haagsche (1893, later Allison/Colt)
http://www.khgcc.nl/
52° 7'58.65"N  4°22'8.59"E

Noordwijkse (1915, Cotton/Pennink/Lawrie 1960s)
http://www.noordwijksegolfclub.nl/
52°17'2.35"N  4°27'48.76"E

Hilversumsche (1910 Burrows/Colt)
http://www.hilversumschegolfclub.nl/
52°12'22.07"N  5°12'33.82"E

Utrechtse De Pan (1894, 1929 Colt)
http://www.ugcdepan.nl/
52° 7'0.65"N  5°13'21.09"E

[Ulrich Mayring]

Over the years you have contributed a lot of data about courses in various regions. Would you mind consolidating all that in one place? Don't rush it, I only need it in a week or so

Seriously, for someone, who may go to France or the Netherlands in a couple of years, it will be nigh impossible to find this thread. I remember another long listing of Southern England's best courses and undoubtedly there is more that I missed.

Ulrich

[Tom Dunne]

Ulrich,

Mark's very useful "Web Browser's Guide to Courses of the UK" is filed under "In My Opinion". Perhaps some of his other research can be archived similarly....

[Jay Flemma]

Is there a way to translate the sites that are NOT in English?  My Dutch is a little rusty...

Jay's colleague from the Netherlands:  "Ahh!  You Speak EEEEEnglish!  I speak EEEEEnglish too!

Jay:  Excellent!  We won't get far with my Dutch..

Jay's Colleague:  Who is your address?

true story...and yes, Jan is a golfer...

Did you know you have to get a license to play golf in the Netherlands?  You cant leave the executive courses until you can play 3 holes in (I forget) six or seven over...

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Jay, But they have men's handicaps up to 48 and ladies' to 60.  I remember once playing at Rungsted in Denmark on my own, cathing up some locals and joining them from about the 6th.  They were all handicaps over 30, even worse than me (and that's saying a lot), but when we caught another group on the 16th my new friends complained that one of them didn't have a handicap.

Jay, you don't need to bother whether it is in Dutch or Swahili - just Copy and Paste.  That's why I've used so many grid references to locate places properly.

Nice to meet you in NY last month.

Mark.

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Ulrich, The Web Browser's Guide is now hopelessly out of date - one of the links apparently now sends you to a porn site!  I'd love to make all this material available, but I don't yet have sufficient web capacity to store the material myself.  I'm talking with the chap who set up my music web site to do one also for golf.  It is asking a lot of Ran's bandwidth to store all this material.

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Ulrich,

I have to say that, worthy though my efforts in aerials may be, they haven't attracted much feedback or many hits.  England 1 and Mediterranean Europe received no responses and are already on the 3rd page of posts.  I am happy to do them, but not if they are waste of time and of ran's bandwidth.

Mark.

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Mark, I'm sorry to disappoint you about the porn web site.  It was Jason Macnamara who found it - contact him!  As to the linksland, there's lots of it.  I hope to show you some from Belgium in due course, but I think you have all I know of in Holland here.  I am always happy to be informed of errors or omissions.  Try dialling in these parameters into Google Earth:
 57°38'55.55"N  10°24'20.40"E
and
 57°41'49.84"N  10°29'17.39"E
Copy and Paste.

What a place to build a links course!.....

[Ulrich Mayring]

Mark, if you need any webspace, I can set you up with a virtual server under my domain. It's not the fastest machine, but as you said, the unwashed masses are probably elsewhere.

Ulrich

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Ulrich,  What a kind thought!  I'm hoping to set up my own golf website on which I hope to be able to store photos, but I'll certainly bear your suggestion in mind.  Thank you.  Mark.