Terry, Just as I was about delete the thread. Too bad.
Did ya'll vist Geoff's site and read Brad's pieces?
Tom's quote is debateable when considering certain template holes.
I've yet to see a great course, or even a great green complex, which was built exclusively from the plans; the best designs evolve from the site, with the crew actively thinking about the design while they're physically making the hole.
TOM DOAK
Also,
Brad's news from Dismal River is promising.