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JayC

Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2002, 11:51:05 AM »
What about the possibility of a whole new rota of modern courses to host the US Open and PGA?  Besides solving lots of problems, it would also keep the Open Doctor away from the courses we value so much on GCA.

No doubt the USGA would resist, but I'm thinking more about the 2027 US Open and the 2052 PGA.  

It is possible to build a great course now that would be worthy, isn't it?
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Mike_Cirba

Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2002, 10:54:57 PM »
Ben;

You asked, what are the cons of the Ocean Course for a US Open?

Well, there is a LONG jaunt between the 9th green and the 10th tee that would likely be accomplished thru a cart ride, but....the purist in me aside....

I can't think of another modern course that would provide the interest, variability, and significant challenge to player of that level, and any temperature issues are moderated by the ocean breezes.

There isn't a better course to host a modern US Open on so many levels.  Watching the play on #17 alone would be worth the selection. :)
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Paul Richards

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Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2002, 04:41:07 PM »
Let the PGA "experiment" with the newer courses for their tournament.

I would love to see the USGA stick with the old, classical courses.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2002, 06:41:22 PM »
Craig,

MeadowBrook ?
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Craig_Rokke

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Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2002, 06:51:36 PM »
Patrick-
Would that be Dick Wilson's Meadowbrook in N.Y.? Did they/should they host a major tournament?
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2002, 04:15:18 AM »
Craig,

Yes.

They have hosted the Senior Tour Lightpath classic over the last few years on an abbreviated course.
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McCloskey

Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2002, 09:41:52 PM »
I have played a course in Collierville, Tn called Spring Creek Ranch that I believe COULD be a terrific Open course.  It does have sufficient land adjacent to support an Open, like the USGA likes to have.  
I would love to see more modern classics be used as future Open sites.  I am growing tired of the same old courses being used each year, with a "so-called" facelift making them better.  
I am one that believes that today's course quite often are superior to the great majority of courses built long ago.  Not all from any era are superb, but there are many more great courses built in the 90's than in any decade, possibly ever.
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Robert Kimball

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Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2002, 08:49:53 AM »
Maybe Mike Vegis could help on the discussion of the new tif eagle greens on the Ocean Course.  
Would the USGA be willing to concede their fast green speeds (remember Oakmont in '94??). How fast can the new greens be trimmed to currently?  I don't know if they would be able to cut the greens so close in the hot summer months.
And wouldn't it kill the greens after the tournament??
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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2002, 06:01:08 AM »
It's still fairly comfortable here in June.  It doesn't get really hot until late July or early August so I don't think we'd have any trouble with the greens.  As for speed, lets just say that Pete Dye had to lessen come of the green contours due to the speeds that could be obtained...  
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Mike_Cirba

Re: U.S Opens on Modern Courses
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2002, 06:09:35 AM »
I've stated that I'd LOVE to see a US Open on the Ocean Course at Kiawah, but another that comes to mind that "could" host a US Open based simply on the golf course challenge and spatial considerations is Olde Kinderhook in upstate NY near Albany.  

However, given the other contenders in the state, that seems to be out of the question.  
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