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Mark Pearce

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2006, 10:31:28 AM »
Ally,

not sure the Open (not British Open) is restricted by national boarders. I think it is more important that it is held on a classic links. Still I doubt it will move outside the UK.
I'd think the British Open would have to be played in Britain.  The Open Championship, however, may be more mobile.
In July I will be riding two stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity, including Mont Ventoux for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Ally Mcintosh

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2006, 10:54:53 AM »
jon wigget, mark pearce... when did anyone in this thread refer to it as the british open?... the R&A have always held it in the UK and that won't change... i suggested that it may be an unwritten rule although maybe it is in writing - would be interested to know?

Ally Mcintosh

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2006, 11:14:23 AM »
hmmm, just found this little piece:

"The British Open, Golf's oldest national championship was played for the
first time in October of 1860, when eight men played three rounds over the
12-hole course at the Prestwick Golf Club in Scotland. The next
year, the British Open event was declared "open to the whole world," and the
event has been known simply as the Open Championship ever since."

i never knew that it had ever been called the british open... that more or less settles it for me, then... the republic of ireland is out of contention

Tony_Muldoon

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2006, 11:21:25 AM »
Pat Ruddy has claimed that the guys from the R&A have paid him an informal visit.  I think he probably scared them off when he said that he had the land to stretch it to 7800yards to give them a proper manly test!

I think the phrase is 'not in my lifetime.'
2025 Craws Nest Tassie, Carnoustie.

Ally Mcintosh

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2006, 11:31:40 AM »
haha....

tony, has pat ruddy any works in the pipeline?... would you know?... in fact, do you know of any new developments happening in ireland that i may have missed... a few i've heard of are:

lough rynn (faldo)
lough erne (faldo)
hangman's point (els)
moyvalley (clarke)
whitfield (o'meara)

anything exciting i've missed?

seriously off topic... apologies

Mark Pearce

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2006, 11:33:29 AM »
hmmm, just found this little piece:

"The British Open, Golf's oldest national championship was played for the
first time in October of 1860, when eight men played three rounds over the
12-hole course at the Prestwick Golf Club in Scotland. The next
year, the British Open event was declared "open to the whole world," and the
event has been known simply as the Open Championship ever since."

i never knew that it had ever been called the british open... that more or less settles it for me, then... the republic of ireland is out of contention
Depends on what the word "British" referred to.  The Republic is located in the British Isles but is not part of Great Britain (and certainly isn't part of the United Kingdom :-\).
In July I will be riding two stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity, including Mont Ventoux for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Tony_Muldoon

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2006, 11:41:22 AM »
Can anyone provide a link to the original thread that revealed St Patrick’s in Donegal as the most hidden golf in Ireland? It's a great thread about two course owned by a local hotelier that were on links land (across a bay from Rosapenna?) and barely maintained and no signs to say they were there. One of them was the last work by Eddie Hackett.

Ally, this may belong more on your other thread because it was recently posted on here that (you guessed it), he sold out, a major hotel is coming and Niclaus is redoing both courses.

Unlikely that a major tournament will ever be held in Donegal.
2025 Craws Nest Tassie, Carnoustie.

Ally Mcintosh

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2006, 11:42:41 AM »
mark, you're courting a bit of controversy with that statement...

...i'd duck for cover if i were you   ;)

Mark_Rowlinson

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2006, 11:52:51 AM »
hmmm, just found this little piece:

"The British Open, Golf's oldest national championship was played for the
first time in October of 1860, when eight men played three rounds over the
12-hole course at the Prestwick Golf Club in Scotland. The next
year, the British Open event was declared "open to the whole world," and the
event has been known simply as the Open Championship ever since."

i never knew that it had ever been called the british open... that more or less settles it for me, then... the republic of ireland is out of contention

But you don't say what your source is....

Ally Mcintosh

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2006, 11:58:16 AM »
apologies Mark R... seems to come from standrewsgolf.co.uk which is a commercial site so not sure on its reliability...

...might send this question into peter alliss next time he's on the goggle box  

Mark_Rowlinson

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2006, 12:08:18 PM »
Quicker would be to e-mail the RandA - you'll have a reply this afternoon.  I have never seen it referred to as anything other than the Open Championship in anything official or scholarly, but I so frequently have to admit ignorance on this site that I shall not commit myself to any opinion!

Ally Mcintosh

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2006, 12:18:55 PM »
i was kinda half joking with the peter alliss comment... the question i'm really interested in is whether it would be within the constitution of the Open Championship to take it outwith the UK... it's a hypothetical question i'm sure but it would still be interesting to know the answer... i'll ask about the British Open name at the same time...

thanks all

Jack_Marr

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2006, 01:47:28 PM »
hmmm, just found this little piece:

"The British Open, Golf's oldest national championship was played for the
first time in October of 1860, when eight men played three rounds over the
12-hole course at the Prestwick Golf Club in Scotland. The next
year, the British Open event was declared "open to the whole world," and the
event has been known simply as the Open Championship ever since."

i never knew that it had ever been called the british open... that more or less settles it for me, then... the republic of ireland is out of contention
Depends on what the word "British" referred to.  The Republic is located in the British Isles but is not part of Great Britain (and certainly isn't part of the United Kingdom :-\).

It's called the British Isles mainly by the British, but also abroad. The Irish government has been asking cartographers and other governments to stop including Ireland in the term British Isles. Just like Zimbabwe is no longer called Rhodesia, I suppose.

More confusing geograpical tags, Donegal is in Ulster, but it's not in Northern Ireland. It is the most northerly county on the island, though.

...and, Northern Ireland is not technically in Great Britain, but it is in the United Kingdom. It is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Wheter or not it's likely that the R&A would consider going outside the U.K. for the british open, I don't think it would ever be held in the Republic of Ireland.
John Marr(inan)

Mark_Rowlinson

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2006, 01:53:28 PM »
More to the point, it doesn't need to go outside the UK, as there are more than enough courses on the present Open roster.

Jack_Marr

Re:"New" Major Championship Courses
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2006, 02:37:54 PM »
More to the point, it doesn't need to go outside the UK, as there are more than enough courses on the present Open roster.

That's certainly true. They U.K. as a whole is probably the greatest golfing area in the world.
John Marr(inan)

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