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Fred_C.

Crump Cup
« on: September 14, 2006, 09:12:07 AM »
Folks,

Could someone please tell me the date and time for the Sunday round of the Crump?  I'd like to take some members of our school golf team, and I'm trying to put together the details.

Thanks,

FJC

Andy Scanlon

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 09:27:47 AM »
According to sources in the know...Sunday 10/1  Gates open at 1pm.
All architects will be a lot more comfortable when the powers that be in golf finally solve the ball problem. If the distance to be gotten with the ball continues to increase, it will be necessary to go to 7,500 and even 8000 yard courses.  
- William Flynn, golf architect, 1927

Mike Hoak

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 09:43:22 AM »
I am planning on taking my father to the Crump Cup this year.  He has always wanted to see the course, and I do not believe he has any idea that such an event exists.  For those of you that have attended in the past, how is everything setup?  Is their an admission charge?  Are there many spectators?  Any chance you can buy a yardage book or hat?  How difficult is the course to walk.  My father is in his late 60's and gets around reasonably well.

Steve_ Shaffer

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 09:56:15 AM »
Mike

If I remember correctly, there is no admission charge but there is a $5 or $10 charge for parking that goes to the local fire company. The pro shop is not open to the public and nothing is for sale. Enjoy the walk. It's a great experience just to be there.

Steve
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JSlonis

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2006, 10:04:17 AM »
Andy is correct...

Sunday, Oct 1st.  It should draw quite a crowd this year because our beloved EAGLES don't play until Monday night that week.

Hope to see some of you there.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2006, 10:05:19 AM by JSlonis »

JESII

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2006, 10:04:22 AM »
And as far as forward planning, try to get there early so you can park as close to the entry gate as possible because it's just a long road leading in and you may end up with a mile or so walk just to the front gate.

And Redanman, how could you possibly recommend skipping the 2nd green? The Sistine Chapel of golf greens!
« Last Edit: September 14, 2006, 10:04:42 AM by JES II »

JSlonis

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2006, 10:11:22 AM »
I believe there is parking down at Clementon Amusement Park, with shuttle service up to the club.  Like Steve said above, the charge for parking goes toward a donation to the local fire & rescue company.

Voytek Wilczak

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 10:26:03 AM »
The Crump Cup is not to be missed.

The marshals give out scorecards at the entrance to the public for free, but the clubhouse is strictly off limits - my wife tried to sweet-talk a nice gentleman standing guard in front of the clubhouse to let her get in to buy a souvenir shirt, but no dice - she was very politely turned away.

I would love to meet up with fellow GCA'ers at this year's CC -perhaps someone who knows the course well and could comment on the GCA as we walk the course with the players.

« Last Edit: September 14, 2006, 10:29:33 AM by Voytek Wilczak »

Mike Hoak

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 10:36:15 AM »
Are you allowed to bring a camera?

Voytek Wilczak

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2006, 10:37:14 AM »
Are you allowed to bring a camera?

Yes - last time I was there 3 years ago.

Andy Scanlon

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2006, 10:50:50 AM »

Hope to see some of you there.

Jamie:  I plan on attending and will definitely say a post-round "hello" if I run into you!
All architects will be a lot more comfortable when the powers that be in golf finally solve the ball problem. If the distance to be gotten with the ball continues to increase, it will be necessary to go to 7,500 and even 8000 yard courses.  
- William Flynn, golf architect, 1927

mike_malone

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2006, 10:52:47 AM »
 Are chainsaws allowed?
AKA Mayday

JeffTodd

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2006, 10:52:51 AM »
Last year it was $15 to park at the amusement park and a shuttle bus provided transportation to the course. You were not allowed to park on E. Atlantic Ave. For any first timers, you really can't miss the entrance to the park, and there were signs indicating where you should go, so don't worry about finding your way.

If history is any indication there will be no souvenirs for sale, so your only memento will be a scorecard from the course. Last year refreshments were being sold near the entrance by some local youth sports leagues, IIRC. Like any golf tournament, cameras (sadly) and cell phones were not permitted last year.

It's a great day and you are essentially given free reign to wander where you please, although they were asking people to stay off the greens. Even if you have played PV the Crump Cup is an opportunity to soak in the subtle nuances of the course that one is sure to miss during an actual round.

Andy Scanlon, are you certain that the gates open at 1:00? I called the club a few weeks ago and I was told "around noon", but it was obvious that the gentlemen on the phone was not entirely certain. I'd like to get there as early as possible, but I'd also like to avoid standing in the Clementon Amusement Park parking lot for an hour as well.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2006, 10:54:19 AM by JeffTodd »

Andy Scanlon

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2006, 12:23:32 PM »
Not certain at all, just passing along what I was told.
All architects will be a lot more comfortable when the powers that be in golf finally solve the ball problem. If the distance to be gotten with the ball continues to increase, it will be necessary to go to 7,500 and even 8000 yard courses.  
- William Flynn, golf architect, 1927

PThomas

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2006, 12:32:58 PM »
Are chainsaws allowed?

mayday:  I'm betting it doesn't specifically prohibit them on your ticket, so..... ;)
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

JSlonis

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2006, 03:15:35 PM »
Are chainsaws allowed?

Mayday,

It's probably best if you left your friend at home....for some reason, he may have trouble getting through the front gate. ;)

« Last Edit: September 14, 2006, 03:17:42 PM by JSlonis »

mike_malone

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2006, 03:22:55 PM »
 Jamie,

   Wow! That is a striking resemblance to Wayne Morrison. How could you not respect that guy? He's wearing a tie.
AKA Mayday

JSlonis

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2006, 03:24:17 PM »
Jamie,

   Wow! That is a striking resemblance to Wayne Morrison. How could you not respect that guy? He's wearing a tie.

Yep, that ole' "Leatherface" was one dapper villain. ;D

TEPaul

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2006, 03:32:28 PM »
Here's hoping that Slonis and Sullivan don't face each other at any other place and time but in the Crump Cup finals beginning at 1pm on 10/1. But maybe we need to throw the others of our GOLFCLUBATLAS.com contributors/Crump Cup competitors in there too.

We do have a couple of other contributors on here who are Crump Cup participants and one of them, PAW (Chet Walsh) is actually a former Crump Cup champion.

I remember well the year he won. Being as prescient as I am ;) I proclaimed to him in one of the early rounds that there was little to no question that he was going to win the thing on Sunday (if you don't believe me just ask him).

I even got up on Sunday morning and went all the way back down there to watch his Sunday morning semi-final match in which he wiped out his opponent so fast he was back in the clubhouse in time to still have breakfast. Well that left him hours to hang around waiting for the finals.

The reason I'm telling you all this is because his first reaction before teeing off in the final round was one of the funniest things I've seen in golf.

You have to understand that when you play in the Crump Cup you're playing matches in a remarkable atmosphere of quiet down there. Just you and your opponent and your two caddies. It's very quiet indeed amongst those segregated holes.

So, anyway, Chet Walsh (PAW3) comes marching out of the clubhouse and marched apace, as he generally does with his head down, grabs his driver or 3 wood for the first tee and marches towards the first tee, at which point he just happened to turn and glance down the first hole and there lining both sides of the hole all the way from the waste bunker to the green were about 2,000 people.

You want to see what looked like a sudden high-voltage electric shock and a classic Hollywood double-take or triple-take? Well, what he did next was definitely that!

But PAW3 is sort of a natural born entertainer on the golf course and he obviously felt OK about all those people after the initial shock and he won that Crump Cup that day.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2006, 04:28:04 PM by TEPaul »

JSlonis

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2006, 04:04:24 PM »
Tom,

That's a great description of seeing all those spectators for the first time.  My initial reaction 2 years ago must have been similar to Chet's because after Mr. Brewer saw my face, he told me a great, quick little story to help settle me down.  He said that when he made it to his first final at the Crump Cup, he had no idea that spectators were going to be there for the round.  He was absolutely shocked to see all those folks standing on the 1st hole.

I knew they were going to be there, and I was still blown away.  My first thought after stepping on that first tee was, "Oh my, I hope I don't kill anybody."
« Last Edit: September 16, 2006, 11:21:41 PM by JSlonis »

TEPaul

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2006, 04:23:06 PM »
You're gonna win that thing one of these days, Jamie, I can feel it and I am prescient. If I feel you're gonna win it this year I'll let you know and then there'll be no pressure on you at all because even if you tried not to win it you wouldn't be able to not win it.

PAW13

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2006, 04:09:50 PM »
TP

I thought I had a great memory! The moment it hit me was as soon as I stepped out of the parking lot onto the sand by the scoreboard, I had been inside the clubhouse watching the 1st series of the Eagles game and had no idea how many people were coming in the gate.  Billy McGuinness my opponent that day was already on the putting green and he just laughed at me when he saw my reaction.  Charley just told us to relax and have fun.

Jamie, my 1st thought was exactly yours, "just don't kill somebody".  And actually some of the fans like a little action and thus bet on each players shots, I was a little crooked off the tee that day and it got to the point on one hole were a guy yelled over "Hey Chet, any chance you can hit someone, I got $50.00 on it."

I have to say it was quite an experience and a lot of fun.

Hopefully it will be a full GCA Semi-Final on Sunday Morning.


Dave_Miller

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2006, 04:48:17 PM »
TP

I thought I had a great memory! The moment it hit me was as soon as I stepped out of the parking lot onto the sand by the scoreboard, I had been inside the clubhouse watching the 1st series of the Eagles game and had no idea how many people were coming in the gate.  Billy McGuinness my opponent that day was already on the putting green and he just laughed at me when he saw my reaction.  Charley just told us to relax and have fun.

Jamie, my 1st thought was exactly yours, "just don't kill somebody".  And actually some of the fans like a little action and thus bet on each players shots, I was a little crooked off the tee that day and it got to the point on one hole were a guy yelled over "Hey Chet, any chance you can hit someone, I got $50.00 on it."

I have to say it was quite an experience and a lot of fun.

Hopefully it will be a full GCA Semi-Final on Sunday Morning.



Chet:
Are you, Chris and Michael playing in the Crump.  Michael"s dad is playing in the Sr Am in Indiana this weekend.
Best
Dave

Dan Herrmann

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2006, 08:35:11 PM »
It's a great day, and it's worth the trip from almost anywhere within driving distance.

I love the fact that the members are so proud of their course.  I've found all to be very friendly and helpful.

Be sure to check out the famous PV halfway house if you go.  I don't think they'll sell anything to spectators, but it shows exactly what a halfway house should be.  

Other goodies to check out...
1.  Notice the small practice "greens" by the first tee.
2.  #2 may be my favorite hole on the course.  The bunkering on the hill is not to be missed.
3.  #5 may be the toughest par 3 I've ever seen.
4.  Hells-Half-Acre.
5.  The multiple greens on 9.
6.  The devil's a**hole on 10.
7.  etc, etc, etc.

I'm glad I walked Pine Valley before AGNC.  After seeing both in person, I'm convinced that PV is a significantly superior golf course.  It really is the best golf course in the world, in my humble opinion.

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Be sure to let the treehouse know if any of 'us' is playing - Jamie or Sully, for example!

AndrewB

Re:Crump Cup
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2006, 11:10:40 PM »
Oh, man, I forgot all about the Crump Cup.  I wonder if it's too late to schedule a trip home to see my parents (and Pine Valley while I'm in the state).

Even if you have played PV the Crump Cup is an opportunity to soak in the subtle nuances of the course that one is sure to miss during an actual round.

I'm sure I missed a lot the one time I played there and that's exactly why I want to get back to see the course.
"I think I have landed on something pretty fine."

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